Lync 2013 High Availablity in Pool

Hi MS recommends to have 3 FE servers in Lync 2013 Pool. I have few questions to clarify
1. why MS says if we have 2 FE servers then it will work as Lync 2010. what makes the differences between Lync 2010 (with 2 FE servers and Lync 2013 with 3 FE servers)
1. with 2 FE servers in Lync 2013 pool, what will happen if my BE server goes down?
3. I know the quorum used in Lync 2013 High availability (windows fabric) . Where the quorum will be stored? what model it is using?
Thanks

Enterprise Edition pools now are recommended to have a minimum of three, yes THREE front-end servers. This is due to the "Windows Fabric" replication architecture based on Azure. The back-end SQL database is no longer the store for real-time data.
If you BE Server down, Lync will work for 10 min. then become down
In order to function the Windows Fabric needs to achieve a status of Quorum. This means a certain number of servers (Voters) must be able to communicate with each other to ensure that the pool is capable of maintaining consistency (Quorum). There are 2
different pool states in which we must maintain\achieve quorum which differ in how many voters must be available.
Cold Pool Startup\Quorum Lost – when a pool is first starting or after quorum has been lost, that pool must have roughly 85% of its servers available to achieve quorum<sup>1</sup>.
Operating Pool – after a pool has been started we need at least 50% of the servers available to maintain quorum<sup>2</sup>.
<sup>1</sup> This means that when defining a pool within topology builder only add the servers that will be deployed at that time, not in the future. If you put 6 servers in a pool within topology builder and only deploy 3, we will never achieve quorum because
we don’t have approximitley 85% of the servers operational. Thus, the front end services will never start.
<sup>2 </sup>If quorum is lost then all Front End services will be shutdown to protect the cluster from data loss.
To identify the Quorum voters a given servers Windows Fabric identifies check C:\ProgramData\Windows Fabric\Settings.xml. This file is updated when the Windows Fabric Host service starts up, thus any changes to pool members requires a service restart on
all Front Ends in the pool, one at a time. The To-Do list in topology builder lets you know that after publishing the topology. If this isn't completed your servers will have a skewed view of the topology which could cause issues.  Depending on the number
of servers within the pool, this will dictate which voters are required.
Even # Server Pool (Figure 1) – each server will have 1 vote and the SQL instance will have 1 vote. The SQL server will act as a tiebreaker.
Odd #Server Pool (Figure 2) – each server will have 1 vote.
For more info, You can refer below link
http://jasonshave.blogspot.com/2012/11/lync-server-2013-ha-design-changes-and.html
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