Mac OS X Leopard Server (PPC) "forgets" settings if Server Admin is left on

I'm not sure that I'm posting this question in the right place.
I have a QuickSilver 2001 Power Macintosh G4 (867MHz, 2x120GB PATA hard drives, 1.5GB RAM) running a fully up-to-date copy of Mac OS X Server 10.5.2. The hardware appears to be in good shape. The disks are new and I'm very certain the RAM is good. Apple Hardware Diagnostics finds no problem with the computer itself.
Normally, this system is very reliable. It works as a primary domain controller for Windows PCs. However, if by some chance I forget to close the Server Admin application, and the machine sits for a while without use, Server Admin will claim that "no services are configured" when I return. I also saw this problem on the 10.5 and 10.5.1 releases.
The services really do appear to stop working when this happens. I have Open Directory, DNS, DHCP and SMB configured. All four will stop responding.
Rebooting the computer usually gets the services going again, and Server Admin will then function properly. However, I always have to reconfigure SMB to be a primary domain controller.
Any ideas? Since this is just a test system, I did try wiping the disks and doing a reinstallation. The problem persisted.
I think this may be PowerPC specific, as I have an Intel Mac mini set up much the same way (Mac OS X 10.5.2 server, 4GB RAM, 320GB hard disk) and it does not appear to suffer from this issue.

Yes, I just discovered this problem on my own machine.
I just wanted to check some settings and discovered that the behaviour of the GUI of Server Admin was somewhat "erratic": First this "no services are configured" message. Some of the configured servers were marked with the usual green "up and running" bullet, others dark grey - those were normally configured and running and clicking the appropriate line seemed to force Server Admin to check the actual state and then turned also green. But sometimes configuration pages were "greyed out", or while switching through the tabs Server Admin claimed that where were "unsaved changes" which should be saved (or discarded).
And then SMB: this was light grey, as usual when a service is not running and clicking on it I browsed through the configuration tabs - everything seemed ok (all my settings were correctly shown, configured as PDC with right domain name etc.) - and I started the service. Then suddenly the configuration settings changed to the default settings - no more PDC, but a "standalone server" with workgroup name "WORKGROUP"...
Looks for me, as if Server Admin lost it's "source" file for the configuration (the file in /var/db/smb.conf says, that it is automatically generated -- does somebody were the source file is stored?)...

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Ich betreibe im Büro und zu Hause jeweils einen Microsoft Home Server. In beiden Netzwerken ist neben diversen Windows Rechnern auch ein Mac vorhanden.
Die jeweilige "Konfiguration" ist wie folgt:
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