Mac output as input in LE8 ? ("What you hear")

I'm a new user, upgraded from Garageband 09, but am a previous cakewalk user from my Windows era. Back in windows, on my XFI audio card there was an option to use the actual output of the PC as an input somewhere in one of the audio programs. It was called "What you hear".
So i'm wondering is this possible on the mac, through the bus settings or something? So what i mean is, whatever is coming Out to the speakers can be routed as an input to be recorded. So if i have a youtube or video in a browser or some audio from another program it can be recorded directly into Logic.
Any ideas?

With programs like Soundflower (http://www.cycling74.com/products/soundflower) or JackOSX (http://www.jackosx.com/) you can route any audio input to any audio output.
But this is not the right solution for your needs......
The best way is to download the videos and extract the audio track from them.
To do this you'll have to buy a Quicktime Pro license and install these free apps:
1. Firefox with a plugin called Video Download Helper (to download the videos from youtube etc.)
2. Perian (to manage several audio format)
3. Flip4Mac free (to read WMV files).
cheers
rob

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Stereomix/What you hear?

? <div class="lia-component-body lia-message-body">hi everybody.
Lately I've been introduced to streaming games to friends online.
Well,I'd like to stream game audio and microphone input.
Since my X-Fi XtremeGamer doesn't have Stereomix I tried the "What you hear" option,but I'm not content with that solution.
It's kind of distracting for me to hear myself saying what I just said a second ago, so I'd like to know if there is a way to turn that off or low, without losing the ability to stream either microphone or game audio.
So what I'm looking for is a combination of "What you hear" for the game audio and regular microphone output, all in audio channel.
Is there a way to do it's Did I miss an option for it somewhere?
Or is there an additional program I need to mix those channels?
I'm on Windows Vista by the way.

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"what you hear" playing all the t

I have a onboard soundblaster 24-bit li've. I am not sure exactly what the problem is, but whenever I use a mic I can always hear the background system sounds of my computer on top of my voice (ex. system ding, and music I am playing). I found it hard to believe that my mic was picking it up. So I turned down my speakers and played a sound file on my computer while recording it with "sound recorder" (the basic one that comes with windows). and sure enough even though I turned my speakers off it still played through.
Looking for a solution as I use voice communication software almost daily to coordinate with project leaders. It is very annoying not being able to hear anything without it being echoed back to them.
I hope this post makes sence to you as I am not all that versed in english =(.
Thanks in advance for your help
Edit: just realized I should probably add the fact that I do have "mic" checked under recording devices and not "what you hear"Message Edited by Spyder226 on 08-30-2006 07:24 PM

In order to hear people talking I will need my wave output unmuted...
so I dont think this will work.
As for that yes, It does not record anything (sndrec32) when I play music or something but then again I cannot hear anyone so it somewhat defeats the purpose. Let me take another crack at explaining this
Example:
) I will connect to ventrilo while playing music on my headphones.
2) I will then try and talk to my team leader by pressing PTT (push to talk hotkey). When I press this key, he will hear all of my music as well as my voice all at once. So it makes it very hard to understand me.
3) Once I turn off the music he can hear me ok again, but every little system sound that occurs he can hear at double the volume.
Also just to clarify, I only have the microphone input selected in recording and I have all the playback selections muted except for "wave" and "playback"Message Edited by Spyder226 on 08-30-200608:22 PM
Message Edited by Spyder226 on 08-30-2006 08:22 PM

Record what you hear

I have a Pavillion DV8-1250EA 4 GB RAM 2x320 GB Discs which has an IDT HD Audio device and uses the Windows 7 64-bit operating system.
I want to knwo how to record audio internally (e.g. audio played from the Internet).
I am able to do this on my desktop which has a Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro card and runs Windows XP Professional 32-bit by recording "What You Hear".
It seems just a little bit of an oversight to have omitted this functionality on such a powerful and feature-packed system designed for multi-media.

I do run Audacity and I have tried to use this to record "What You Hear" on the HP Laptop. The only recording device shown in Audacity is Master. If I try to use this to record, it only picks up inputs from the inbuilt microphone and the externl microphone, if attached. Any sound coming out of the speakers is picked up by the inbuilt microphone and can be recorded in this way but that is, obviously, not satisfactory.
Another method would be to cable the earphone output to the external microphone input and disable or mute the built-in microphone. Again, this is hardly satisfactory.
I would have expected the audio detected internally to be available for recording, which it is not because I do not believe the IDT HD drivers present it.
In desperation, I have contacted IDT directly.
This is the sort of thing I have taken for granted, having had an excellent sound system on my desktop for years. It seems that Soundblaster takes some beating, both in terms of quality and technology. Perhaps HP would do well to consider this.

Can't get "What you hear" recording source to wo

I am using a SB Audigy 2 ZS platinum (sb0350p). There is no sound recorded when I try to record from the What you hear source.
I've tried to increase the volume in my advanced settings with no luck. It's if it is muted. I havn't checked any onter line in yet.
Any ideas?

Fireryan,
The setup depends on your input and output sources. In the Creative mixer, unmute (enable) a source such as the microphone or Line-In and slide up the volume. If you're using a microphone, unmute that line and click on the red X and check +20dB boost. Also, click the red X over the "Master Control" and make sure you don't have digital output selected (unless that's what you want.)
BobMessage Edited by Katman on -30-2005 0:34 PM

Recording what you hear on the comp

Well I got cubase but everytime i export the song the sounds are all different and ultimately the song sounds completely different then it was on the program, and even if i figured out how to fix this, i still have the problem of converting it a different format. So, instead of doing the two i was hoping to see if there is any way i can record what i hear on the computer. I tried and i didnt find a way and hoping someone here could guide me... i got an Audigy 2 Value and Windows XP if that is of any help. It be very appreciated if someone could help me. Thanks

which version of cubase are you using? as i dont use the home pakages im not 100% on if evertythings the same but im sure this will be! what export function are you using? and what is the input channel selected recording in the computers audio devices! if you select the input as waves that might help the "what you hear" recording outside of cubase.
use said you are using only midi files i agree with jutapa about using the vsti's if you read the cubase manual you will find that it mentions something about not being about to mixdown outside midi functions with out syncing the device cubase or something along those lines!
i didn't pay all that much attention as it's never been a problem for me!
here the part of the manual on mix down
The Export Audio Mixdown function in Cubase SX/SL allows you to mix
down audio from the program to a file on your hard disk, in a number of
formats. You can choose to mix down one of the following:
An output bus.
For example, if you have set up a stereo mix with tracks routed to a stereo output bus,
mixing down that output bus would give you a mixdown file containing the whole mix.
Similarly, you can mix down a complete surround bus, either to a single multi-channel
file (interleaved) or to one file per surround channel (split).
The channel for an audio track (Cubase SX only).
This will mix down the channel for the track, complete with insert effects, EQ, etc. This
can be useful for turning a number of events into a single file, or if you are using CPUintensive
insert effects – by exporting the track and re-importing it into the project you
can turn off the insert effect, saving processor power.
Any kind of audio channel in the mixer (Cubase SX only).
This includes VST Instrument channels, effect return channels (FX Channel tracks),
Group channels and ReWire channels. There are many uses for this – for example, you
can mix down an effect return track or turn individual ReWire channels into audio files.
Notes
The Export Audio Mixdown function mixes down the area between the
left and right locator.
When you mix down, you get what you hear – mutes, mixer settings
and insert effects are taken into account.
Note though that you will only include the sound of the bus or channel you select for
mixdown.
here's the bit okay seems you can't record midi in the mix down at all you have to record it like a normal audio file first. that's just with the record button on to a normal audio track you'll have to figure out how to get your midi to feed through into cubase
the way i do it is only leave the information out to the midi device plugged in and then plug the analog out put of the device into the input that cubase will record this will make sure cubase records the file as an audio file with out getting a cross over of the midi information being sent(i hope that makes sence some times i can make a muddle of explaining things). there are other ways to do this but this ways nice and simple and lazy! and works just aswell as any other.
MIDI tracks are not included in the mixdown!
To make a complete mixdown containing both MIDI and audio, you first need to record
all your MIDI music to audio tracks (by connecting the outputs of your MIDI instruments
to your audio inputs and recording, as with any other sound source).
With Cubase SX, you can also export selected tracks – this is a different
function that doesn’t create an audio mixdown.
Rather, this is a way to transfer complete tracks (including clips and events) from one
project to another
i left everything else in just in case you wanted to check through it!
1. Set up the left and right locator to encompass the area that you want
to mix down.
2. Set up your tracks, so that they play back the way you want.
This includes muting unwanted tracks or parts, making manual mixer settings and/or
activating the R (Read) automation buttons for some or all mixer channels.
3. Pull down the File menu and select “Audio Mixdown…” from the
Export submenu.
The Export Audio Mixdown dialog appears.
The upper half of this dialog is a standard file dialog, while the lower
half contains file format options and settings for the mixdown function.
Note that the available settings and options differ depending on the
selected file format
Select the bus or channel you want to mix down with the Outputs popup
menu (with Cubase SL you can only export busses, not channels).
This lists all output busses and channels in the active project.
5. Select the channel configuration for the mixdown file with the
Channels pop-up menu.
Typically you would select the same channel configuration as the bus or channel you’re
mixing down, but it’s also possible to e.g. mix down a stereo bus to a mono file. In this
case a warning will appear, asking if that’s what you want to do.
Here you will also find the “N. Chan. Split” and “N. Chan. Interleaved” options – these
allow you to create a surround mixdown file, either as one mono file per surround channel
– split – or as a single multi-channel file – interleaved (Cubase SX only).
The Channels pop-up and the “N. Chan” options are only available when
an uncompressed file format is selected (AIFF, uncompressed Wave,
Wave64 or Broadcast Wave).
For the other formats you can select stereo or mono using controls that are specific to
each format. When mixing down to 5.1 Surround, you also have the option to mix down
to Windows Media Audio Pro (Windows and Cubase SX only) – see page 670.
6. Select a file format with the File type pop-up menu.
7. Make additional settings for the file to be created.
This includes selecting sample rate, resolution, quality, etc. The available options depend
on the selected file format – see page 660.
8. If you want to automatically import the resulting audio file back into
Cubase SX/SL, activate the “Import to” checkboxes.
If you activate the “Pool” checkbox, a clip referring to the file will appear in the Pool.
Activating the “Audio Track” checkbox as well will create an audio event that plays the
clip, and place it on a new audio track, starting at the left locator.
The Import options are only available if you have selected an uncompressed
file format (AIFF, uncompressed Wave, Wave64 or Broadcast
Wave files).
9. If you activate Real-Time Export, the export will happen in real time, i.e.
the process will take the same time as regular playback.
Some VST plug-ins require this to have time to update correctly during the mixdown –
consult the plug-in manufacturers if uncertain.
CUBASE SX/SL
Export Audio Mixdown 27 – 659
When Real-Time Export is activated, the exported audio will be played
back on the Audition bus.
The fader below the Real-Time Export checkbox allows you to adjust the volume of the
Audition bus.
10.If you activate Update Display, the meters will be updated during the
export process.
This allows you to check for clipping, for example.
11.Select a folder and a name for the audio file to be created.
With some file formats you can create split stereo files (see page 661).
This will create two files (one for each side) with the same name, but
with the letter “L” appended for the left channel file and “R” for the right
channel file.
In the same way, split multi-channel (surround) files (Cubase SX only) will have the
same name followed by a number indicating the surround channel.
12.Click Save.Depending on the file format, an additional dialog may appear.For example, when exporting to MP3 format a dialog appears where you can add infoabout the song title, artist, etc. Make the desired
settings and click OK to proceed.A dialog with a progress bar is displayed while the audio file is created.If you change your mind during the file creation, you can click theAbort button to abort the operation.if you
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Recording What You Hear

Does anyone know if there is a way to record what you hear with Audtion 3? I recently upgraded from Audition 1 when I upgraded my pc and os. I would like to be able to record streaming sound from the internet. I am using Vista (32 bit) and Windows 7 (64 bit)on the two computers that have Audtion 3 installed. Thanks for you input. This question seems to be unaswered on the internet.

Actually, there's discussion about this all over the Internet.
The problem is your move to Vista and Windows 7
Under pressure from the record companies, the ability to record the Stereo Mix output of you computer has been disabled or removed from many new computers.
You may be lucky and find it's only been disabled on your machine. If so, then do the following:
To enable:
->> go to Control Panel
->> Hardware and Sound
->> Manage Audio devices
->> in the Recording tab window right click in the white area away from any devices and from the menu enable "Show Disabled Devices" and "Show disconnected devices"
->> right click on Stereo Mix to get the properties window and in Device usage "Use this device (enable)"
However, there have been many reports in here (you can do a search) that some computer manufacturers are actually removing this ability entirely, again under pressure from the record companies.
This being the case, you might try some software called Virtual Audio Cable: http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.htm
You have to pay for it but at least there's a trial version so you can see if it works for you before laying out your money.
Bob

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Hi,
The X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro and the Sound Blaster X-Fi HD supports 'What You Hear'. Please write to Presales if you require more information about these products.

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Alright so I know how "What You Hear" is supposed to work, but sometimes it doesn't.. Sometimes rebooting the PC helps, sometimes it doesn't it's very odd.
I have what you hear selected, and I have Music playing through WAVE, I'm saying stuff on the Micrphone and It's not recording anything. [Yes I have Both the WAVE / MICROPHONE enable to play on the playback so that I can hear it myself for the WHAT YOU HEAR to record them... Nothing is muted]
When I switch recording setting to WAV or just MICROPHONE, the input is taken just fine, but when I switch to "WHAT YOU HEAR" nothing is heard. Any Ideas?
I tried re-installing my Drivers before, it did a temp fix really reinstall>

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Lost audio capture 'what you hear' from conexant

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Ok this has driven me mad for the last few days but I found the solution:
Windows Vista Recording Input Source selections for recording streaming audio, sound from media players or just about anything you can hear coming through your speakers are Hidden from view and Disabled by Default. (I'm sorry - but why!!?! )
If your sound card/system supports recording streaming audio Input Source selections such as: Stereo Mix, What U Hear, Wave Out Mix, Wave or a similar selection, here's what you need to do to Enable it for recording:
Right-Click on your Speaker Icon in your System Tray, (near your clock), select "Recording Devices".
In the Sound window that opens, near the top, select the "Recording" TAB.
Move your cursor down to where devices are shown.
Right-Click in the blank white area and select "Show Disabled Devices".
If supported, new selections will appear such as: Stereo Mix, What U Hear, etc. Right-Click on "Stereo Mix", "What U Hear" or similar and select "Enable".
Right-Click on the same item again and select "Set as Default Device". Click OK.
Now in the recorder's Options in the "Input Source" box, you should have the "Stereo Mix", "What U Hear" or similar source available to select for recording streaming, etc.
(You can also Enable other hidden selections like Microphone, Line In, etc. if they are not already shown).

How does "what you hear" work with my surround 5.1 externa

Hi,
I am using a usb soundblaster surround 5. external soundcard and recording lp's through the line-in socket of it. I am confused about the setting "what you hear" as opposed the "line-in" setting;
I thought that the purpose of "what you hear" is that you are recording what you hear, i.e. with the altered sound of the graphic eq, eax, cmss 3d etc, but this seems not to be the case as the sound is the same on line-in as it is on what you hear. I want to be able to alter the sound quality/tone and in particular, the width of the stereo, i.e. make it wider, and can't seem to with this system. Shouldn't I be able to change the tonal quality and it be reflected in the recording if I am using "what you hear" as the input ?
Any help on this would be appreciated.
Thanks.
P.S. Does anyone know of a software that can slightly alter the stereo i.e. make it wider, given the fact that I would be recording in 24 bit 96k of the soundblaster ? I have audio cleaning lab, and although it works, I think I need a better software for my needs, as the sound quality is very important to me.
Thanks very much in advance.
audio-fi

audio-fi wrote:
Hi,
I am using a usb soundblaster surround 5. external soundcard and recording lp's through the line-in socket of it. I am confused about the setting "what you hear" as opposed the "line-in" setting;
I thought that the purpose of "what you hear" is that you are recording what you hear, i.e. with the altered sound of the graphic eq, eax, cmss 3d etc, but this seems not to be the case as the sound is the same on line-in as it is on what you hear. I want to be able to alter the sound quality/tone and in particular, the width of the stereo, i.e. make it wider, and can't seem to with this system. Shouldn't I be able to change the tonal quality and it be reflected in the recording if I am using "what you hear" as the input ?
Any help on this would be appreciated.
Thanks.
P.S. Does anyone know of a software that can slightly alter the stereo i.e. make it wider, given the fact that I would be recording in 24 bit 96k of the soundblaster ? I have audio cleaning lab, and although it works, I think I need a better software for my needs, as the sound quality is very important to me.
Thanks very much in advance.
audio-fi
I just don't understand the bolted part after reading your post .
By keeping the recording untouched gives you the best possible quality. If you then want to "play" with effects as like spreading the stereo image, then do it on-the-fly rather than 'hard-code' into recorded audio data.
How to-do this while playing ... just use some audio/media software which supports addons (effects).
I could recommend you some players like
Winamp + VSTHost plug-in, MediaMonkey + VSTHost plug-in, Foobar + VSThost plug-in, Steinberg MYMP3PRO, WMP + some plug-ins (though, I don't know if there are this type as you would like of), etc. (there are couple more).
VST/DX EFFECTS plug-ins can be found from KVR - http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php
24-bit/96kHz would give you the best quality but, as you have an external Soundblaster there ... IMO, just use nati've samplerate then (AFAIK, it's 6-bit/48kHz) and if you don't want to use 48kHz wav/mp3 format then just convert Wave files 48->44. using Voxengo r8brain Free and then transfer to mp3 or wma if needed.
For quality sake I would recommend you to get least E-MU 0202 USB.
jutapa
Message Edited by jutapa on 03-2-2008 07:40 PM

What you hear recording sounds like Phase Shifter!

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Actually, there's discussion about this all over the Internet.
The problem is your move to Vista and Windows 7
Under pressure from the record companies, the ability to record the Stereo Mix output of you computer has been disabled or removed from many new computers.
You may be lucky and find it's only been disabled on your machine. If so, then do the following:
To enable:
->> go to Control Panel
->> Hardware and Sound
->> Manage Audio devices
->> in the Recording tab window right click in the white area away from any devices and from the menu enable "Show Disabled Devices" and "Show disconnected devices"
->> right click on Stereo Mix to get the properties window and in Device usage "Use this device (enable)"
However, there have been many reports in here (you can do a search) that some computer manufacturers are actually removing this ability entirely, again under pressure from the record companies.
This being the case, you might try some software called Virtual Audio Cable: http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.htm
You have to pay for it but at least there's a trial version so you can see if it works for you before laying out your money.
Bob

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XiFi Pro, WinXP Pro, SoundMax HD audio (onboard).
No matter what I try, I can not get my XiFi Pro to record any audio when set to "What You hear." The level indicators on the Creative recorder never light up. I can record from the XiFi's mic input.
XiFi driver: 1.1.96.0
SoundMax driver: 5.10.1.5670
Creative MediaSource version 5.26.02

Originally Posted by DanB2644
XiFi Pro, WinXP Pro, SoundMax HD audio (onboard).
No matter what I try, I can not get my XiFi Pro to record any audio when set to "What You hear." The level indicators on the Creative recorder never light up. I can record from the XiFi's mic input.
XiFi driver: 1.1.96.0
SoundMax driver: 5.10.1.5670
Creative MediaSource version 5.26.02
Not knowing your complete operating enviroment...one suggestion is to make sure you disable audio in bios if you have an embedded audio chip on your motherboard.

Re: Creative and VISTA - Works on Record WHAT You HEAR AT LAST - Follow These Steps!!!!

I have "Sorted" Out My Creative to work (NOT RECORDING WHAT YOU / I HEAR) with VISTA?I use Musicmatch to Play and or Real Audio to Listen / Stream?from the Net (You may use ANY Player for the same) and then Press the Record on My COOL EDIT Pro and WHALA There I Have Music that has been Recorded - What a Relief!!!!!!!:smileyvery-happy:?Get / Download COOL EDIT PRO and do ONLY the Following Settings:?Set the Settings in the Options - Settings - Multitrack - Click / Tag in "Open Order" on "Rec Play" and Click/Tag in "Start Order" on "Play/Rec." and Click/Tag in Default Rec on "Stereo" and Away You Go?Enjoy Your Creative Sound Card and Recording / Streaming Yet AGAIN?Best Wishes?Andre (from South Africa - East Coast - Port Elizabeth - The Friendly City)

I do not have 'what you hear' as an option any longer with the new Titanium; I had it with my older X-Fi Fatalty, but not this new card.
I would imagine it has something to do with Microsoft trying to limit recording of DRM-protected content, and Creative bowing to their wishes.

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I have Soundblaster Audigy 2 on Vista 64-bit. I recently downloaded new drivers (6.0..242). This is after converting from XP and old drivers.
My "What you hear" settings work and will record using MediaSource Player, but the volume on the recorded file is about 25% the volume of the original file. This is verified upon replaying both the original and newly-recorded files side-by-side or right after one another.
When opening the Sound Panel>Recording Devices>"What You Hear">Levels, the levels are to the max and the balance is to the max for both right and left channels.
Although probably irrelevent, under Sound Panel>Playback Devices>Speakers>Levels, play control levels are max, and all other sublevels are?maxed, balanced maxed, and unmuted. (Sorry for my lack of technical description.)
I play the file on Windows Media Player and volume is maxed on the player as well. The interesting thing is when you look in the Sound Panel, the speakers show maxed volume and the "What you hear" only shows, again 25% of the volume.
Previously, I had no problems with XP and old drivers. I also was once able to revert to old drivers (which I can no longer do) and the problem went away. The difference was that the old drivers had a "Wav" level setting (under Sound Panel>Playback Devices>Speakers>Levels) where you could increase the level. These drivers don't appear to provide this setting.
Is there some setting I'm missing? Any help would be great. Thanks!

Jamrock wrote:
Where abouts is this located? I can only see "Microphone, Line in, CD Player, Video, AUX, Stereo Mix, Mono Mix"
Which card/software you got there?
If you use "Creative Surround Mixer" --> you can set the .REC source by pressing the icon located above recording level slider.
If you can't see the "W-U-H" option listed there, then check if it's already selected (ear icon).
jutapa

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