::MacBook 2,1 OVERHEATS when idle::
Hi everyone.
My arising concern led me to write this up regarding heat issues with my MacBook.
Since my 2nd day of owning it, in January 2007, I installed BootCamp Beta that corrupted approximately 20GB. THinking it'd be no concern to me, I've lived with that until today when Parallels doesnt always function properly.
Today my friend recommended me to use smcFanControl to see my heat and fan settings, and alarmly varied 80-85 degrees CELCIUS with my fan going constantly over 6100rpm. I only have firefox, mail, adium (a messenger-type thing) and msn.
THe bottom of my MacBook is immensely hot and the fan blows out hot air like my heater.
Putting it over my tower fan at full blast will bring it down by up to 5 degrees however it is still very hot and the fan is loud and fast.
Previously this heat and fan speed only happened when performing extremely heavy tasks on both OSX as well as my virtualPC running windows XP.
When I open photoshop and go into Preferences, it lets me allow photoshop to use up to 1.6GB of my 'remaining' ram, meaning that not much of my ram is being used.
To make sure there isn't any hardware failure I inserted my grey installation disc and performed the hardware test. It came out perfectly clean.
Currently I'm looking for a resolution and have boiled it down to a few possibilities:
Processor capabilities (Simply weared down after 2 years of moderately-hard usage) It's not replaceable right?
T7200 2.0GhZ, 4mb cache 667MhZ bus
RAM performance
People say I have to boot 200 times for it to function at its best and usually I only put it to sleep overnight and when not used during the day. However I think this has deteriorated when I booted.
2GB from Apple, 667MhZ DDR2
Graphics Performance
Don't know how to relate this to a problem when no graphical-type apps are open however it does show its weakness when games or video-editing apps (such as imovie and final cut pro) are running.
It's a 64mb Intel GMA 950. However Disc Utility and Hardware Test mysteirously detects it as a 256mb. =/
Hard Drive Performance
It's the standard (and pathetic) Hitachi 5400rpm 16mb 1.5GBps 80GB
It might be the fact I'm running out of space (14GB remaining)
Or the slow speed (5400rpm) that no one else seems to be complaining about
Or the fact it's Hitachi.
I really don't know.
Fan Malfunction
Occasionally I perform very heavy tasks on my MacBook such as running various iLife iWork and CS3/4 apps simultaneously. I'm not sure if extended use of these apps have simply caused the Fan to go conkers.
Or if there's something wrong with the fan because of my traveling with it (And running around town in the rain and jumping down mass flights of stairs) However Apple Hardware Test didn't say anything.
OS
Everyone says Leopard runs better and takes up less space.
So is it worthwhile upgrading (Eitherb uying it, stealing it from friends.. etc etc)
I've got 10.4.11 - no one else seems to be complaining
So what do you think?
Thish appens both running off AC and battery. It heats up like a uhm... a monkey on a stove.
I didn't get extended AppleCare and the only qualified apple technician I know is overseas for the next few months and didn't leave me with his contact while he's there.
Did a quick google search--kinda tired right now, not sure how much more info can be found.
According to this thread (it's a bit old):
http://www.codeweavers.com/support/tickets/browse/?ticketid=308635;ssubject
the wineloader process will stick around if one of your Windows programs crashed while exiting the program. It's fine to use Activity Monitor to kill it.
If you've got the time, it may be worthwhile to try targeting the Windows program that crashes while exiting. The way I'd do that would be to run one program, then quit CrossOver and watch Activity Monitor for wineloader. Of course, this may not happen every time you use Crossover.
pmtool is part of Activity Monitor so once Activity Monitor is closed that process will stop. Oh, and here's a helpful hint. If you're not sure what a process is or what program "owns" it, highlight it and click "Inspect."
Kernel_task is a system process so you shouldn't force it to stop. Is it gobbling up your RAM/CPU?
One last note: Firefox can be a bit of a CPU hog, but only if you don't have another program running which needs the power. It will use less if you launch a program that needs it.
~Lyssa
P.S. Thanks for the star
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