Mail junk filter

junk filter is marking every one of my outgoing mails from all accounts as junk. How do I fix this?

I did not make recent changes. In advanced I noticed my filter was set to or not all for prev recipients and add book. Earlier I had taken out addressed by full name since some folks had figured out the full name from somewhere and were getting thru. The filter does well with junk mail it is just that peculiar anomaly that all of my sent mail is getting marked junk. I changed or to all in case that was my problem and will see if that fixes it. I had previously done a reset to fix it. I don't know if I over rode the reset by toying with the advanced filter. After your hint I read the advanced filter more carefully and noticed the or condition.
Thanks for the response. I will post again if this fixed it.

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cheetahkayak wrote:
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--Michael (SpamSieve developer)

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Why? The junk filter itself knows nothing about
Apple. When you set up Mail anew, there is only one
custom rule called “News From Apple” that, if active,
would prevent those messages from being marked as
junk. If you’ve removed or disabled that rule (I
have), then messages coming from Apple are treated
like messages coming from anyone else, as it should
be.
Or is it because "Apple Discussion Forums" isn't in
my address book?
Well, that’s one possibility. Another is that the
junk filter still isn’t working properly, and the
more thorough cleanup procedure I mentioned in my
previous post may be necessary.
Note also that having Sender of message is in my
Previous Recipients OFF in Preferences > Junk
Mail may contribute to some messages being
incorrectly marked as junk.
The junk filter cleanup procedure, in case you want
to try it, would be as follows:
1. Quit Mail.
2. In the Finder, go to ~/Library/Mail/.
3. Locate LSMMap2 and move it to the Trash.
This file stores information about what does and
doesn’t constitute junk, and allows the junk filter
to learn. Deleting this file is what Preferences >
Junk Mail > Reset does. The file was called
LSMMap in early versions of Mail; delete that
as well if you see it.
4. Locate DefaultCounts and move it to the
Trash. This file keeps statistics about the number of
messages that have been marked as junk, either
automatically by the junk filter or manually by the
user.
5. Locate MessageRules.plist and/or
MessageSorting.plist and move it to the
Desktop. The former is used by Mail 2.x, the latter
by Mail 1.x. This is where Mail stores all the rules,
including the rule that governs what the junk filter
does. There is probably also a
MessageRules.plist.backup and/or
MessageSorting.plist.backup file there; move
it to the Desktop too.
6. Look for the account folders. The name of each
account folder starts with the account type (POP,
IMAP, Mac), followed by the account username and the
incoming mail server. Open each of the account
folders, locate the Junk.mbox or
Junk.imapmbox folder within it, and move it to
the Trash if present.
7. Go to ~/Library/Mail/Mailboxes/. Locate any
Junk.mbox mailboxes there (their name may
include the account name in parenthesis), and move
them to the Trash.
Note: Messages in Junk mailboxes with an
.mbox suffix are stored locally and will be
lost forever as a result of doing steps 6 and 7. If
there is a chance that you have legit messages there
that you want to preserve, either move the messages
to another mailbox in Mail first, or move
Junk.mbox to the Desktop (to be imported back
later) instead of to the Trash. Junk mailboxes with
an .imapmbox suffix aren’t a concern because
they are stored on the server and Mail will rebuild
them automatically.
8. Open Mail. As a result of removing the rules file,
the junk filter will be disabled now. You may want to
either tell Mail to go offline immediately after
opening it, or shut down the Internet connection
before opening Mail, to prevent it from downloading
anything until the junk mail filter has been enabled
again.
9. Go to Mail > Preferences > Junk Mail,
enable junk filtering, and configure it however you
wish.
10. Go online again if you went offline in step 8.
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any rules you’d like to preserve or recreating them
is not a daunting task, just trash the rules files
that were moved to the Desktop and be done with it.
Note: For those not familiarized with the
~/ notation, it refers to the user’s home
folder. You can easily locate any of the folders
referred to in this post by copying the folder path
here, doing Go > Go to Folder in the Finder,
and pasting the folder path there.
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I agree with Satchmo. Apple Mail's Junk Filter is a joke and has never worked. I never had problems managing spam when using Eudora until I switch to Tiger Mail. Since then, it moves good mail to junk, and even the most obvious junk stays in my inbox. Every day for years now I have had to manually review all 1,000 emails of my daily emails to correctly ID spam.
And, it must be done each and every time email is retrieved because I tie delete from server to moving from in box. If Mail has a false Junk, if I don't move it back to In Box right away, it is deleted from server on next check.
You can't train it. I've been clicking "Junk" on the crap for years and still comes to my In Box. I've reset training at least a dozen times, but it never works.
I predict Apple will never fix this.

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I have SpamAssassin running on my Mail-Server and Mail set to trust the server-side-spam-filter (And as Apple states SpamAssassin is compatible (even used in OS X Server)).
Most Spam gets crunched but I have some that I get over and over again although the SpamAssassin rating is set and often even above 9.
Can I somehow make Mail more sensitive to the rating?
(I don't want to use a custom rule to sort it because then the new mail sound will play for any spam as well.)

No, it doesn’t make sense. You may want to read Mail Help’s “Automatically processing email” article to better understand how rules work in Mail.
the rules operate before the messages are placed in any mailbox
Rules are fully applied to each message, one at a time, in the order they appear in the list. How could it be otherwise? What you say doesn’t make sense to me...
What I should have also suggested is 'stop evaluating rules' on the first rule
That would be redundant and useless. Mail stops evaluating rules for messages moved to another mailbox by a preceding rule.
Rule 2 exists only to make the sound
Problem is, it would also play the sound for junk messages not caught by the first rule.
I suggested 'To includes @' to catch all mail not filtered out by rule 1
Not sure what you mean. If you want the second rule to be applied to every message not caught by the first rule, there is an Every message condition for that.
perhaps move to inbox isn't necessary?
Not only is it unnecessary. As I said, it might cause an infinite loop that Mail cannot handle properly.
This way the spam won't trigger the sound but everything else will.
And that’s precisely part of the problem, that everything else, including junk mail caught by the built-in junk filter (which is applied after all the other rules), will trigger the sound...

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I'm using Mail 3.1 and notified that the junk filter doesn't work correctly. Have enabled junk filtering and selected the following exceptions:
- Sender of message is in my Address Book
- Sender of message is in my Previous Recipients
- Message is addressed using my full name
Well it seems to be that the first one doesn't work. 8 of 10 Emails that I receive are marked as SPAM although the Sender is in my Address Book!
Somebody else with the same problems?
Thanks

To turn off "Message is addressed using my full name" doesn't help Will turn off the filter now...

My junk filter has too many holes!

My junk mail preferences are set to only accept mail from addresses in my address book. The junk filter catches about 100 pieces of junk per day, but I still get about 15 junk messages daily in my Inbox. Is this normal? How can I get it to work more effectively?

You are receiving 100 pieces of junk mail per day with the same email account?
If so, have you used this email address publicly for any reason such as when making an online purchase or for website access if required, etc.?
In addition, do you automatically render all HTML received?
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A problem is spammers are constantly changing/tweaking their methods to bypass spam filters at the incoming mail server for an account and with an email client such as the Mail.app so spam filters are in a constant catch-up mode.
Check this link which applies to any email account.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86684
And this link which applies to any email client such as the Mail.app.
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My mac mail spam filter barely seems to work. Maybe 20% get stopped, tops. Suggestions?

You’re welcome.
I don't see how any of these would interfere.
Well, if a message is moved to another folder by a rule, that message won’t be processed by the junk filter...
Of course the e-mail from apple telling me that you had posted
on this thread did get sent to junk!
And was it marked as junk? Does it have a “Mail thinks this message is Junk Mail” banner?
The junk filter database may have become corrupt or contain erroneous information as a result of you having mistakenly marked messages as either Junk or Not Junk. Have you tried resetting it (Preferences > Junk Mail > Reset)?

How do I get the junk filter on the MAC to also filter email on IPhone and IPad?

I have a MAC, IPad and Iphone and am using Icloud to keep calenndars, photos and music up to date. however, my email junk filter on the MAC doesn't filter via Icloud for email on the Ipad or Iphone. It would be great while traveling to not waste time and effort deleting junk mail.
thanks

no.

Junk filter gone beserk

There are many times when the junk filter has marked perfectly good mail as junk, and vice versa. Now something else is happening, something new that only started within the last month or so. Click on an incoming mail that is correctly tagged as junk and it suddenly loses its junk status. I then have to re-junk it. What gives?

There appears to be more than one thing going on here, but let’s start with the following first, and see whether it makes a difference:
1. Go to Preferences > Junk Mail and disable junk mail filtering.
2. Quit Mail, then open it again.
3. Go to Preferences > Junk Mail, enable junk mail filtering, and configure it however you wish.
4. Reset the junk filter database (Preferences > Junk Mail > Reset).

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