Manual/Autometic creation of cost elements in chart of accounts field

Dear Friends,
While creation of Chart of accounts (OB13) under Controlling Integratiion tab
thers is two options are there.
1 manual creation of cost elements
2 autometic creation of cost elements.
While creation of cost elements if we select
(MANUAL CREATION OF COST ELEMENTS) what will happen???
(AUTOMETIC CREATION OF COST ELEMENTS) what will happen?
What is the main difference between about two fields?
Thanks in advance,
Mallika

Hi,
MANUAL CREATION OF COST ELEMENTS - Cost elements maintained manually. A push button is available for
this purpose, with which you can go directly to the related cost
element.
AUTOMETIC CREATION OF COST ELEMENTS - Cost elements maintained automatically. When you save a new G/L
account, the related cost element is automatically created. A prerequisite is that a default value for the cost element category
has been set up for this cost element. If no default value is found, the system will not create a cost element.
You can make default settings via :
Cost Element accounting --> master data --> cost element --> automatic creation of primary and secondaru cost element --> make default settings
Dhara.

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Good Question. i can clarify you. this question
1. when you select in ob13 create cost elements manually
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after we can run batch in put in obk3 & SM 35 it's updated successfully.
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