Manually set Monitor Profile

Instead of Photoshop, et al using my Win7 x64 ICC monitor profile, I would like to set it manually, as I'm able to do in other applications. Is this possible?
The reason why is that I have a Dell U3014 and using the software that comes with it, I want to use its sRGB mode (and an associated sRGB profile from my Spyder 4 set as my Windows default) for all of my regular apps, and AdobeRGB mode (and profile) for my CS and other color-aware apps. My other apps DxO, PhotoMechanic, Canon SLR apps, etc. let me choose the profile.

I would think that your calibration software would create a color profile for your display and set it into its device drivers color management configuration and set something up to load the Video Adapter LUT when the system boots up using the values stored in you displays color profile. I think the software changes your systems displays color management configuration default profile. If not I think you should.
When you edit images in Photoshop you should be editing them in a standard color space like sRGB, Adobe RGB or ProPhotoRGB. When ever Photoshop renders an image for you it will use the document color profile and your displays color profile to display the best colors you display is capable of displaying for the image. You don't set your displays profile for Photoshop. Photoshop retrieves your displays profile from your system configuration.

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Setting Photoshop monitor profiles when using dual displays?

I'm using a Macbook Pro connected to an Apple Cinema Display under OS 10.5.8. Both monitors are calibrated and I export from Lightroom to Photoshop in ProPhoto. The Photoshop working colour space is also ProPhoto so there is no mismatch there.
When in dual display mode I like to have my Photoshop application on the Macbook screen and the photo I'm working on shown on the Cinema Display. In fact, I couldn't work any other way because the laptop's screen is not at all suitable for precision work.
I noticed that when I send an image from Lightroom to Photoshop CS4 for further editing the colours were off in Photoshop. This lead me to check the monitor profile used by Photoshop and I saw it was using the Macbook Pro .icc profile. This seems to be used even if the image is displayed in the external display. Selecting the Cinema Display as "default" in ColorSync doesn't change the situation. As a result, the colours as displayed by Photoshop are incorrect.
The only "solution" I have found is to either go to System Preferences > Displays and select the external monitor as the principal one (which is inconvenient because it negates many of the advantages of using dual monitors) or setting the Cinema Display's .icc profile for the Macbook Pro as well (which makes it the one chosen by Photoshop but means I'm only working wiht one correctly calibrated monitor).
Is there a solution to this problem? Ideally I want to have both my monitors calibrated and Photoshop detect which one I'm using to view my photo. Failing that, I would like to have both monitors calibrated and "tell" Photoshop to use the Cinema Display as the principal monitor.I don't want .
Many thanks!

Thanks for your reply!
I'm not too worried about 10.6 because I'm not using it ( I reverted to 10.5.8 precisely because of the colour issues).
I don't really understand your reply. My problem is that if Photoshop uses my Mabook Pro profile as the "monitor profile" my pictures - as displayed on the Cinema Display - look different in Lightroom and in Photoshop. It's as if Lightroom is "aware" of which of the two displays is being used whereas Photoshop can only deal with one at a time. I would like to know if this analysis is correct and what I can do so that Photoshop displays my photographs the same way as Lightroom does on each of my two displays.

Satellite P70-A: monitor profile not available/unable to set other profiles

Hello.
I have bough last week a new Toshiba notebook (P70-A-11Q) which has Windows 8.1 preinstalled on it.
It seems that the device has a problem with the monitor profiles.
When i watch images on a non profile managed software, the images look fine.
Once i import them on Lightroom or Photoshop, the images get a yellow tint.
This is what i see: Left (Lightrom), Right (Irfan) [Yello Tint|http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh565/rockreactor/Clipboard05_zps092c5501.jpg]
Unfortunately i have tried to add sRGB on my profiles but even after restarting i did not see any change.
From what i have noticed the operating system did not have any profiles set at all before.
I know that selecting an sRGB profile is not a great solution and i should rather calibrate my monitor.
The question is why don't the profiles take any effect on my notebook monitor, no matter which one i choose.
Could it be that there is some conflict with the Intel display driver ?
Can Toshiba support such an issue under warranty ?
I believe its not my responsibility to get a totally uncalibrated monitor, or at least a laptop without some suggested profile.
Thank you in advance

Hi mate
> Can Toshiba support such an issue under warranty ?
First of all warranty does not cover any software issue. The warranty covers only hardware problems.
But I dont think also that this could be a software problem. I guess its just an settings issue.
I recommend you to check if the option +Use Windows display calibration"+ is turned ON
- Open the Color Management control panel.
- Go to the Advanced tab.
- Click "Change system defaults..."
- Go to the Advanced tab in the Color Management - System Defaults dialog.
- Turn on "Use Windows display calibration" and click Close.
- Now go back to the Devices tab, change profiles there and click "Set as Default Profile" as usual.
You can also go through the built-in Windows calibration feature ("Calibrate display" button in the advanced tab)

LR1.2 WinXP Monitor Profile Setting?

I've calibrated my monitor with the Spyder2Pro and am running LR1.2. Spyder comes with a loader which loads the display profile at Windows Startup and gives a successful completion message indicating that the profile has been loaded in the graphics card.
I'm wondering however if LR also manages the display like it does the printer? Is LR aware though Windows API or other that the monitor is calibrated and has the profile already loaded? Or will LR attempt to use the monitor profile itself with the result of the display being doubly managed?
I know that having both ICM in the printer driver as well as LR at the same time is a no-no. Just trying to figure out if I'm doing the same thing somehow in the display as well.
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I've calibrated my monitor with the Spyder2Pro and am running LR1.2. Spyder comes with a loader which loads the display profile at Windows Startup and gives a successful completion message indicating that the profile has been loaded in the graphics card.
I'm wondering however if LR also manages the display like it does the printer? Is LR aware though Windows API or other that the monitor is calibrated and has the profile already loaded? Or will LR attempt to use the monitor profile itself with the result of the display being doubly managed?
I know that having both ICM in the printer driver as well as LR at the same time is a no-no. Just trying to figure out if I'm doing the same thing somehow in the display as well.
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Monitor Profile incorrect on Dual Monitor Setup

Hello,
I've searched the forums and I can't find an answer to my problem. I've read about dual monitor setups in Windows and how to set the defaults and whatnot, but it doesn't seem to fix my problem.
I am running on an nVidia GeForce 8600M GT, Windows 7 x64, Photoshop CS4 x64. I calibrated my main display (Dell Vostro 1700) as well as the attached monitor (ASUS VK246H) using Datacolor Spyder3Elite. Both monitor profiles seem to load just fine. I've also went into Windows' color manager and set the system defaults for each monitor respectively. The problem I'm having is that if I were to load Photoshop on the 2nd monitor, Photoshop only uses the main display's color profile (Vostro 1700) and not the ASUS VK246H profile. What could be going wrong?
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Chris Cox wrote:
What if the image is in between two monitors?
The piece on each display is corrected for the display it is on.
Is it supposed to work that way? Because it doesn't. Not with Photoshop CS5 x64 at least.
As a test I intentionally misconfigured the profile for my Monitor #1 (left) so that it's REALLY OBVIOUS which profile is being used. When set this way, on Monitor #1 red colors will appear pale orange.
An open document, floating in a window:
If COMPLETELY displayed on Monitor #1, Photoshop will use the Monitor #1 profile.
If even 1 pixel of the edge of the image is moved onto Monitor #2, it will use the Monitor #2 profile on the entire image.
See for yourself:
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How to restrict manual setting of User Status?

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Pete,
I did read that post. But it is about providing authorisation to set a Status for an User.
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Photoshop CS5 still chooses wrong monitor profile in dual monitor case?

The folk lore has it that if you go to EDIT/COLOR SETTINGS and open the Working Spaces RGB drop down, then what it says near the top on the "Monitor RGB" line is the monitor profile that photoshop is actually using.
If that is true, then I would expect that if I run photoshop on my monitor 1 it would show the profile of monitor 1, and if I run PS on monitor 2 it would show the profile of monitor 2. But in fact, it always shows the profile of monitor 1. Naturally, this creates anxiety that PS is using the wrong profile to display my images, since I normally run with the image on monitor 2.
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PeterFacey wrote:
Emil, Sorry, I disagree. It relates entirely to how Photoshop handles profiles, not how the operating system does.
Windows operating system doesn't handle color profiles at all, but it provides all programs that do with the same way to handle them. If you have the color profiles of your monitors installed properly in the system, they will be equally available to all programs. If a program can use properly one color profile for one monitor it will do the same with more.
PeterFacey wrote:
I also have CorelDraw which is a colour managed application. If I set that straddling two monitors, do you think it will use the appropriate monitor profile for each half? I don't know, ...
I don't have CorelDraw and don't know if it is color managed, but if it is and if the color management on your system is working properly it should give you the same result as Photoshop. Just go ahead and check it - open the same image in Photoshop and in CorelDraw and make a screen capture then measure the RGB values in Photoshop or any program that displays the RGB numbers of colors. But have in mind that a screen capture from multiple monitors that share the desktop will capture the entire shared desktop on one image (if monitors are different sizes it will leave blank areas around the smaller one depending on the alignment), but the same colors will be the same on the entire screen capture using the effect from the color profile only of your main monitor. So if you want to measure how the other monitor displays the RGB color values of the same color, you have to change it to your main monitor in your system in order to have the screen capture with the effect of that monitor's color profile.
On my computer using Windows 7, all color managed programs show the same colors on one or more monitors. Along with the color managed programs from Adobe like Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, and AfterEffects, the other color managed programs like Windows Explorer, Windows Media Player, Firefox, QuickTime, etc also show the same RGB values of a color from each program on a certain monitor.
Basically, if the color management is working properly, the same color displayed from all color managed programs should look the same or as close as possible on each monitor, but when you capture the screen and measure the RGB values they should be different on each monitor unless the monitors are physically identical which is unreal.

Setting dynamic profile values in R3.0

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Lightroom not using the Monitor Profile

I have recently set up a new computer with a new monitor. When I got PS and Lightroom set up on the new system I noticed that when viewing photos in both applications the colors are VERY different compared to how they look viewed online or in another photo viewer from my desktop (windows 8). I also noticed that when I opened PS I got a message saying that the Monitor Profile is "bad" and I could opt out to ignore the profile. When I did ignore it the color looks fine. Blacks are black, gray's are gray, etc . . . Anyway, I am wondering if there is a way I can have Lightroom ignore the profile as well. I have a monitor calibrator and I will try that, but I am wondering if it will do anything only because other applications look fine. Hope someone can shed some light on this!

First of all, Photoshop and Lightroom are fully color managed applications that will actually use the monitor profile to display the image.Many other applications (viewers/browsers) are not and will just ignore it. So there's a difference right there.
That said, when you get that message in Photoshop, it means exactly what it says. That profile is bad and should not be used.
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Windows, wide-gamut does Safari Convert to monitor profile?

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gballard.net/photoshop/srgb_wide_gamut.html
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Okay, I put my Windows Vista Business hard drive back in my Mac Pro and booted off it.
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Using ICC Monitor Profiles

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Possible to bypass monitor profile when displaying image?

After importing a large photo library into Aperture I noticed that when viewing images, they would change color and in a little under a second the colors looked significantly less "colorful and rich" than before. Sounds "subjective" but it really is not. There is definitely a transformation going on and the colors consistently become duller on every image viewed. It is especially noticeable in a album of images taken in the fall using a circular polarizer where the colors looked really great to begin with and then extremely dull after the transformation. I deleted all of the preview images and set aperture to not regenerate them. Still, same issue occurred. The issue occurs with both RAW and jpg images.
In Canon Image Browser on the Mac colors look great. It's easy to do an A to B comparison of the same file and see that it looks better in every case.
But what I've discovered is that I can get the same "dulling" result to occur using Canon's Image Browser 6.x software just by setting one option.
There is an option checkbox in Preferences that is disabled by default to "Adjust Image Colors Using A Monitor Profile." Prior to setting that option, the colors looked great, just like they looked on the camera LCD, and they same as they look on my PC also using Canon Image Browser software and Irfan view. The rich colors seen when not using monitor profile also match what I see in Safari, Chrome, and Internet Explorer browsers.
In Canon Image Browser when I set the checkbox to "Adjust Image Colors Using A Monitor Profile" the colors become very muted. They look identical to what I see in Aperture. Also, I can get the same effect to occur on the PC version of Canon Image Browser. Microsoft's "Windows Photo Viewer" seems to be monitor profile aware as it shows the same dull colors. "Windows Photo Viewer" offers no option that I can find to improve the look of the color. Maybe this is what you want if you're trying to print your images and have them match exactly what is seen on screen.
I have found that with Photoshop CS5 I can export a jpg to tiff which strips out the color space information and then voila the image "pops" when I bring it into aperture and looks the way it does in Canon Image Browser without using monitor profile. In fact you can really then compare within Aperture how big the difference is between the two, and the only thing I did was resave the image to a new file format without doing anything else in photoshop. It's not feasible to resave evertthing as tiff though.
So my main question is, is there a way within Aperture to bypass the monitor profile so I can see the images with the same colors as they are rendered in the majority of the other tools I use.

I've done some additional testing on a jpeg image.
Test 1:
Canon Image Browser: "Preferences/Adjust Image Colors Using a Monitor Profile" is unhecked
Photoshop CS5: "View/Proof Setup" is set to "Monitor RGB"
Aperture: "Onscreen Proofing" enabled and set to "Generic RGB" Additionally I've tried every other color profile available
Result: The colors look identically rich on Photoshop and Canon Image Browser. Aperture is the only tool I can't get to align with the rich colors.
Test 2
Canon Image Browser: "Preferences/Adjust Image Colors Using a Monitor Profile" is checked. Restart the software to apply change.
Photoshop CS5: "View/Proof Setup" is set to "Internet standard sRGB"
Aperture: "Onscreen Proofing" enabled and set to "sRGB"
Result: The colors match on all 3 tools. The color are very noticeably less rich than in Test 1.
I went ahead and previewed the image in the browsers on the Mac. Chrome and Firefox showed the color the same as Photoshop and Canon Image Browser did in Test 1 which looks better in my opinion.
For Safari color looks the same as Test 2.
Also Apple Preview looks the same as Test 2 no matter which soft proofing setting is applied.
I believe Adobe and Canon have the correct behavior and show either richer or duller colors depending on which "proofing" mode they are in. Only aperture so far cannot be made to do the richer colors.

Monitor profile, i think i did it ok but not 100% sure

After reading several previous discussions and answers i'm still unsure if i do the things ok.
I have calibrated my monitor using a Spyder3 hardware device.
Doing so i think this profile is automatically used by my monitor (Eizo cg243w)
If i'm also correct i have to do NOTHING inside photoshop in order to see on screen the correct colours etc. OR do i have to set Colour settings to: Monitor colours? (Monitorkleur) with Ctrl+Shift+K, then first question like this:
And further more, i work with 2 screens; 1 calibrated (main screen for editting purposes) and 1 screen not calibrated (second screen) for skype, bridge, mail etc.
I suppose, since i open PS on the main calibrated screen, this is not a problem, but again, am i correct?
Thanks in advance

Adobe RGB (1998) is certainly a more appropriate working profille than your monitor profile. But assuming "Uit" means "Off", I'd say the Color Management Policies section may still need work.
No one but you can say whether they're the settings "you should use". We simply don't know your goals, how you want to work, what you want to do when there are mismatches, etc.
Bear in mind there are no "this is the one right way" settings. Every single one of them has a use and a reason for being presented to you.
Here's a snapshot of my particular color preferences. Since I publish a lot online and my inkjet printer prefers sRGB input, I have chosen sRGB IEC61966-2.1 as my default RGB working space. If you're printing more often to wide gamut printers then it may be more appropriate for your Photoshop to prefer to use the wider gamut Adobe RGB (1998) color space - or even others.
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Dual monitor profile problem

Macbook pro 4,1 , epson 4800, Dell 24" wide gamut display and I'm having the exact same problems as this 3 year old thread!!!
https://discussions.apple.com/message/7289716#7289716
Can't print using profiles as wrong profile gets applied. This all happens with laptop NOT in clamshell mode, which I prefer so that I can use all screen real estate.

Call Epson support and see if they can give you a complete trouble-shooting algorithm.
The following works for me (I don't think it will work for you, but it may give some leads to explore):
- I keep the menu bar on my laptop
- I put Aperture on my wide-gamut monitor (NEC PA271W)
- I keep secondary display set to "Desktop"
- I never run full-screen
- I confirm the monitor profile at least once a day, and every time I change monitors (I work in two locations, ea. with an external monitor). By "confirm" I mean that I re-assign the profile, not that I re-calibrate the display.
- I have the external monitor connected directly with an mfr-supplied mini-DisplayPort (iirc) to DisplayPort (iirc) cable. This was important.
- I had to take some care with the Epson set-up. All I can suggest here is most recent drivers. I first got the USB connection to finally work, and then got the Ethernet connection to work properly as well.
I mention all of that because in the thread you linked there are comments about both the external monitor not using the correct profile, as well as the printer not using the correct profile.
I would first confirm (you likely already have) that the printer works properly printing from Aperture with no external monitor. After that, things get tricky.
What I picked up from some poking around and talking with knowledgeable people is that OS X does not do a good job with color. (I was surprised.)
Sorry I don't have any real help to provide. Good luck.

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