Material determination-requirment.

dear experts
I am doing Material Determination . Can I have price of main item and substitute item has to be delivered is it possible.
thanks and regards
Mohammed

I think its nt possible through standard configuration.
Why you give other item and charging the customer for main item ?
when determining the other item , we can maintain pricing condition records for that item.
sydtem will pick the price .

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Regarding Material determination

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      I want to repalce a material with another material if the availability of the particular material is not sufficient.
     My problem is whenever i am entering the material in VA01 the the material which we have specified in VB11 is getting automatiaclly replaces eventhough there is enough availability for the material that we have entered.
      Whether there is any option for specifying the material determination should be taken place only after availabilty check.
     Could any one of you clarify my query?
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Regards,
S.Jenibalet.

Hi Jenibalet,
The simplest way to stop replacement in case stock is available is to use the Material Determination Requirements along with functional call to Stock checking functional module. Use VOFM and go to Requirements for Material Determinations. You can create your new Requirement which will go and check whether the material is in stock via using the Function module call to stocks and if stock exists then make the sysubrc = false and exit from the determination procedure. This way replacement will not happen if the stock exists.
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Retail - article follow up / material determination

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I would to know the possiblity of material determination / article follow up in Retail scenario.
The material should be substituted with material already maintained for replacement/follow up for the 'sales orders'.
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Pls elaborate your business scenario and your SAP requirements.
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How to Differentiate between Parent & child item of material determination

Hi Experts
I have a list of material & the Business requirement is to found that whether a material is a Parent material , Child material or Both ( a parent to other children and a child to another parent).
I tried using table KONDD & KONDDP but I was not able to differeniate between Parent & Child item.
I even cant use item category to diferentaite the two as by item categairy i can only find that it is a Prent material but cant find whether this material is a Child material or not.
Is there any table in which i can enter the Parent material & the output would be child material or any other table which contain both parent & child material.
Note : In Material determination ( VB11) , the material which is entered is Parent material & the material with which it would be replaced is Child material.
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The wording of Parent and Child sounds like using a BOM material. In material determination...these two items can be called as Material entered and material determined or Main Item and Sub Item.
In the sales order overview screen...at line item level check the field 'HLvItem' (Higher Level Item). It will show the POSNR of the main item to which this item is linked. Since this can also happen in the case of free goods and BOM...you have make another check for these items with the item category.
If the substitue material is not determined as a sub item... you can check the material number in the field 'Material Entered' in the sales tab of the item and compare the material number with that exists in the VBAP-MATNR. If both are different, then this material can be considered as a determined material.
Thanks,
Ravi

Material Determination in Sales Order BOM

Dear Gurus,
We would appreciate any solutions and/or suggestions you can provide for our problem below:
Background:
Part XYZ is a sales BOM which contains 3 components: A, B, and C. Component B has a material determination (product substitution/interchange) with material B1, B2 or B3.
Requirement:
When a customer orders part XYZ, and if component/material B is not available in stock/shortage, then any or all of the product interchanges may be used to fulfill the order until the full order quantity is confirmed.
Problem:
We are able to explode the BOM to its components but unable to generate the product interchanges for component B in the sales order.
Could you please help? Thank you very much.
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Please check the above notes.
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SAP SD Material Determination not reflected in assigned sales document type

Hi Experts,
I have implemented customized material determination, with requirement to change the UoM of the entered material, from GJ to MJ. I have assigned the procedure to 3 document types:
1. sales order type
2. credit memo request
3. debit memo request
However, this setup is only reflected in the 1st sales document assigned with the procedure. It is not reflected in the credit or debit memo request.
I have turned on the material determination analysis in sales order. Per my checking during credit memo request creation, the analysis indicated that the condition is found successfully. But the UoM did not change in the document.
Please assist.
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HJMY
Edited by: HJMY on Sep 20, 2011 1:24 PM

Hi Ravi,
Thx for your reply.
But I am creating credit/debit memo request without reference to billing.
When I create credit/debit memo request, the material determination is triggered.
Per my test today for credit memo request, I found that the material determination is triggered.
However, the substition UoM is not reflected in the credit memo request document.
The result is reflected only in sales order.
Please help.
Edited by: HJMY on Sep 21, 2011 3:28 AM

Material Determination based on Availability

Hi SD gurus,
I have a client requirement as below:
We create order via BAPI. Data comes from ext call center system.
Whenever Matnr A is entered in Sales order & it is not available then Matnr B should come.
1: I know that we can handle this in Material Determination. I did req. config in IMG
2: I have created VB11 stating that MATNR A should be substituted by Matnr B. I have ticked the MRP ind in VB11 as well.
Now the question is:
When I enter MATNR A in sales order, & assuming its not available then, MATNR B will come in Sales order.
In my case it is happening. But whenever this happens what should be the item category of the MATNR A & MATNR B?
Please let me understand how will standard SAP behave.
I thought the item A should appear as Text item & probably item B should become relevant for delivery & pricing.
But currently I am getting item category TAX for item A & TAPS for item B in sand box. Is that correct?
What should be the standard item categories in this case?
regards

Hi,
The system runs several checks on on each possible substitute, for example to determine if the customer would accept the product based on the product attributes and current stock availability.The system checks substitute materials until the order quantity is satisfied, or until there are no more possible substitutes.
When a valid alternative is found, the system creates a sub-item for it, using the item category that you have defined for the main material in Customizing.
If there is not enough inventory for the alternatives to cover a required quantity, the system confirms only the available amount and ignores the rest. The main item contains information on the confirmed quantity of the sub-item, but is not relevant for planning. For this reason, the material shortage is not passed on to planning.
If you set the material requirements planning indicator for one of the alternatives, however, the system creates an additional sub-item for this material, assigning it a confirmed quantity equal to zero, and a required quantity equal to the open quantity. Since this material is placed as the final alternative in the substitution, it captures any remaining quantities. The system takes this item into account and passes the material shortage on to planning.
Based on your settings Customizing, the system performs pricing at the main or sub-item level.
There are two separate item categories in sales documents for product selection. The item category TAX contains specifications for the main item (original product). The other, TAPS, contains specifications for the sub-items (substitute product).
Review the item category configurations in the standard system. If these do not meet your requirements, perform the activities in the following topics to modify the item category configuration, or create your own categories. Note that if your product selection procedure requires that pricing be done at the main item instead of the sub-item, you will have to create new item categories.
The following examples detail how pricing is carried out at the main item level and sub-item level for product selection.
Pricing at the Main Item
the price for the order is determined based on the price condition records for the main item only. You have deactivated pricing for the sub-item category, so the system does not determine a price for it. Since both the main item and the sub-item categories are relevant for billing, the prices (even if there is no price) are copied to the invoice and billed accordingly.
Pricing at the Sub-item
the price for the order is determined based on the price condition records for the sub-items. You have deactivated pricing for the main item category, so the system does not determine a price for it. Since both the main item and the sub-item categories are relevant for billing, the prices (even if there is no price) are copied to the invoice and billed accordingly.

Material Determination use stock of discontinued material

I am trying to determine if there is a way in R/3 to have a material replace an older material but as sales orders are entered take into consideration any inventory that might still remain of the discontinued material. Here is an example.
1.) We have 15 EA of Material A in inventory in Plant 123
2.) We are going to discontinue Material A and replace with Material B in this plant
3.) VB11 Condition Records are setup for the A to B substitution for order entries
4.) Order for 20 EA for Material A comes in
I would like to see a requirement tp use the 15 from A that are still inventory and then place an order for the remaining 5 on the new Matl B (from Mfg or whomever provides).
Is this possible using the condition records for material determination and the follow-up material options on MRP4 view?

Hi Bill,
This is possible using standard SAP functionalities.
Now considrer a situation where you are creating VB11 record for material A(to be discontiniued) which is to be substituted by material B. And the need is to deplete the available stock of material A first and then start substituting it with material B.
In order to achieve this, while creating a record in VB11 firstly create a record for replacing mat A by mat A , then double click the record line that you have created, which will pop up a small window giving you options to enter mutiple alternatives apart from mat A. where you can you can enter material B as the second alternative/replacement after mat A.
The sequence of material is important to decide which material is considered as the replacement by the system.
In our case system will first replace mat A by mat A and search for stock availability, if sufficient stock or no stock available it will replace the original mat A with the alternative material entered in the VB11 record i.e. Mat B.
Another important thing to note while creating VB11 record is a check box available as "MRP Indiciator" now this indicator plays an important role while transferring requirement to MRP.
In our case we have Mat A which is being disontinued so we dont want the requirement for mat A to be transferred to MRP incase of shortage, instead we want the requirement for material B to be transferred for MRP.
In this case you need to check the MRP indicator box for Material B. if not checked the requirement for Mat A would be transferred to MRP.
Hope this clarifies your questions.
Thanks,
Kishor

Copy control for material determination sub item

I had created material determination sub item(TAPS) correctly on sales order, but when I use VL01N, the sub item does not copy into the outbound delivery.
My item level of delivery copy control configuration (VTLA) is as below:
order requirement: 101
item date: 110
Does anyone offer some suggestion?
Thanks!

Our case is:
standard sales order type "KB":
item_number          item_category         material_number          Qty
10                          TAX                         A                                  10
11                          TAPS                       B                                    1
12                          TAPS                       C                                    9
but the result of standard outbound delivery "LF" that I created from foregoing order is:
item_number          item_category         material_number          Qty
10                          TAX                         A                                  10
20                          TAPS                       A                                  10
I would like to know where the configuration should I make a modification for correct delivery to resemble the following:
item_number          item_category         material_number          Qty
10                          TAX                         A                                  10
20                          TAPS                       B                                    1
30                          TAPS                       C                                    9

Material Determination during order change

Hi,
There is a requirement to trigger Material Determination when a flag gets set on the sales order line item (VBPA). Basically if the flag value on the sales order line item changes via BAPI or VA02 then the material A needs to be swapped with material B. I know that material determination works at the time of order creation or at the time of addition of a line item to an order, does anyone have any experience with this kind of a requirement of material determination trigger during VA02, please share it.
I have been trying to figure out program MV45AFZZ to look for a user exit but not been able to figure out as yet. I also feel that FM PRODUCT_SUBSTITUTION will need to called through one of these user exits, its just which user exit?

Well I had got a solution to this problem and happened to login today so posting it now:
We can make the change in MV45AFIZZ which is screen exit. Flip the material here and everything else gets re-determined.

Material determination Vs Product selection

Hi
What is the difference between Material determination and Product selection ?
Regards
Mahesh

Hello Mahesh,
Material determination or Product selection
1. Material determination (sometimes referred to as product selection) is a method in SAP-SD to substitute or swap one material in the sales order for another using the condition technique and is triggered by the material entered in the line item of the sales order. Material determination can also use a pop-up window with a number of products the user can choose from the list.
2. Material determination can be automatic or manual and is used
 When an old product is becoming obsolete (outdated) and the business is releasing a new product in its place starting from a specific date. In this case the old item gets automatically replaced by the new item in the sales order.
 You may configure the system to automatically to swap one material for a number of other materials, the one material being determined based on which one is available.
 It is also possible to swap the material for a number of materials, where the user is presented to choose from the list.
 Material determination is specifically useful should you wish to swap your customers part number automatically for your own at the time of the sales order.
The functionality of manual and automatic product selection is available during material determination.
a. Reason for substitution 0005: manual product selection (list of default values)
b. Reason for substitution 0004 & 0006: automatic product selection (depends on product availability in order and delivery)
In manual product selection (0005), the system does not automatically replace the product. Instead, it displays a list of all the substitution materials and other information in the master record doing the availability check such as quantity available that can be confirmed on the customers requested delivery date and if the full quantity cannot be met, the system proposes a new date on which the material can be completely delivered. You can then select the required material from the list.
During automatic product selection (0004 & 0006) the system replaces the entered material automatically if it is not available. When you enter an order, the system tries to fill the quantity of the order with the first material in the material determination master record. If there is no enough quantity available then it fills the remaining quantity with the next material.
You can choose whether or not to run the material determination during the delivery process for the same material, as the result of the substitution may change due to the new availability situation of the material.
Reward if helps
Regards
Sai

SD Material determination - copy control - print out

Hi Experts,
I'm using material determination for inquiries (AF). In that material determionation it's defined that substitute products will be displayed for selection and the original entered material number will be used for print out.
When I'm creating an offer with reference to that inquiry, I can see the substitute material no. as defined in material determination. But this number is also used for print out, which does't match to the material determanation definition (the original entered material number should have been printed)
The same appears when I'm creating the order with reference to the offer.
Can someone tell me where and why I'm loosing the connection to the material determination?
Thanks
Anja

HI Anja,
check with "substitution reason" in OVRQ
entry coloum and outcome coloum
maintain according to your requirement.
Regards,
Krishna.

Work center in material determination of DIP profile

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the source of our DIP-Profile is 0001 Acutal costs - line items.
We have the requirement to use the work center in material determination as criteria.
But in DP90 we get material determination error.
The issue is that in the failed combination no work center is available.
Why can´t the DIP find the workcenter we used in the service confirmation?
Thank you
Kind regards
Manfred

Hello,
after above setting have tried this in ODP1
select The Work Center in Chr.then >select Source on left hand side ->Select the Actual cost Line Item>select Material determination-->Select Material for which Transfer Cost and Quantity -->Marked the Check Box Material determination and Individual
Also please let me know Which Control Key you are using in service order??????
Regards,
Rakesh
Edited by: RAKESH ASHOK MANE on Sep 9, 2010 3:16 PM

3 issues about material determination

Hello Gurus,
there are 3 issues about material determination , I don't know how and wher to configure them .
(1) I want to choose whether or not you want to re-run material determination when the delivery is
created.
(2) I want use the some attributes in the material and customer master records to exclude a
particular material from product selection. This means, for example, that all the materials that have
been rejected in the customer master will not be included by the system when it determines a
substitution material.
(3) I want to deal with shortfall cases (in which only the available quantity is confirmed, and it is less than the order quantity) by passing the shortfall quantity on to materials planning. In this case, an additional sub-item is generated with a specifically defined material.
thanks very much!

(1) I want to choose whether or not you want to re-run material determination when the delivery is
created.
hi no need to re run the material determination
(2) I want use the some attributes in the material and customer master records to exclude a
particular material from product selection. This means, for example, that all the materials that have
been rejected in the customer master will not be included by the system when it determines a
substitution material.
hi in this case i thing this is related to listing and exclusin (for more info in search of sdn type listing and exclusion)
(3) I want to deal with shortfall cases (in which only the available quantity is confirmed, and it is less than the order quantity) by passing the shortfall quantity on to materials planning. In this case, an additional sub-item is generated with a specifically defined material.
this is possible by activating availability check and TOR transfer of requirement (for more info in search of sdn type availability check and TOR )

Function Module for material determination

Hi All,
Using Material determination technique we are forcing a material A to be taken as B.
we need to use the same logic in other custom developed application, if anyone worked on similar requirement, wanted to know are there are any function modules which will return these results.
Thanks in Advance
Regards,
Kishore Yerra

Hi,
Check this link.It is explaining about copying materials.
http://sap-img.com/abap/bapi-to-copy-materials-from-one-plant-to-another.htm

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