Max Authorization Rules in ISE
Just curious if anyone knew the max number of authorization rules you can have in an ISE deployment?
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I read a discussion and its says, dev's have tested and support 140 Authorization rules in ISE 1.1.x.
Jatin Katyal
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Max authz rules in ISE 1.2 ?
Hi All,
Is there any doco on what the current limit is on Auth Z rules in ISE 1.2
I have read 1.1.x had a limit of 140 authz rules.
I am also considering using policy sets if that increases the total authZ rules.
CheersPeter,
Here are the numbers for both 1.1.x and 1.2. Hope this helps.
* ISE 1.1.x
# ISE 1.2
Authentication Policy Rules
* 50
# 400
Conditions Per AuthC Policy Rule
* 3
# 8
Authorization Policy Rules
*140
# 600
Authorization Identity Groups
* 20
# 1000
Conditions per AuthZ Policy Rule
*6
# 8
Authorization Profiles
* 30
# 600
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Edited by: 904630 on Dec 27, 2011 5:34 AM
Edited by: 904630 on Dec 27, 2011 5:36 AMOpen Identity server console and check the attribute's Display Name and type in Object classes section. I recently faced a similar issue and it got fixed after providing these two values.
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Is the limit for the maximum number of rules for an Access Service, or for the ACS totally?The limitation is for total acs
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/net_mgmt/cisco_secure_access_control_system/5-5/release/notes/acs_55_rn.html#90057
Table 13 Limitations in ACS Deployments
Object Type
ACS System Limits
ACS Instances
22
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Identity Groups
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Authorization Rule Success Return Value HeaderVar not found?
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return
Type Name Return Value
HeaderVar REMOTE_EMAIL xxx
Type Name Return Attribute
HeaderVar REMOTE-EMAIL mail
But, can not find any value for entry REMOTE_EMAIL or REMOTE-EMAIL, no matter in asp or jsp.
Other cookies values are OK. I doubt the headervar is set or not, or "HeaderVar" is correct.
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[ISE] What is the best Authorization rules sequence ?
Hello,
like a FW set of rules, I think that ISE's authZ rules should also be ordered with care ?
What are the best practices ?
Most used first ?
Guest, MAB and Webauth at the end ?
Tell me...
Any screencap is welcome
Regards.Hi,
The first rule matched is the rule that applies. Best practices are outline by one of the tac engineers in this document.
https://supportforums.cisco.com/community/netpro/security/aaa?view=blog
You can set attributes such as network device groups to determine if the wired, wireless, or vpn policies need to be in effect (which I am sure you are aware of).
Thanks,
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Mac-Address Different format for Authorization on Cisco ISE
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I have problem with my Cisco ISE,
This is the design :
ISE ---- Core Switch ---- 3Com Switch --- PC User
My Case:
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Mac-address 3Com format : XXXX-XXXX-XXXX
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Anyone have experience with this? and how change the mac-address format in 3Com so user can authorized by Cisco ISE.
note:
authorization based on Active Directory is not problem with 3Com Switch.
Based on my experience, Different product is different format mac-address, so this case not only for 3Com Switch.
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An issue with authentication and authorization on ISE 1.2
Hi, I'm new to ISE.
I have an issue with authentication and authorization.
I have ISE 1.2 plus patch 6 installed on VMware.
I have built-in Windows XP supplicant and 2960 cisco switch with IOS c2960-lanbasek9-mz.150-2.SE5.bin
On supplicant I use EAP(PEAP) with EAP-MSCHAP v2.
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What should I do to resolve this issue?
Switch configuration:
testISE#sh runn
Building configuration...
Current configuration : 7103 bytes
! Last configuration change at 12:20:15Tue Apr 15 2014
! NVRAM config last updated at 10:35:02 Tue Apr 15 2014
version 15.0
no service pad
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
no service password-encryption
hostname testISE
boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker
no logging console
logging monitor informational
enable secret 5 ************
enable password ********
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username admin privilege 15 secret 5 ******************
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aaa authorization network default group radius
aaa authorization auth-proxy default group radius
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aaa accounting dot1x default start-stop group radius
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crypto pki certificate chain TP-self-signed-1888913408
dot1x system-auth-control
spanning-tree mode pvst
spanning-tree extend system-id
vlan internal allocation policy ascending
ip ssh version 2
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switchport mode access
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authentication event server dead action reinitialize vlan 1
authentication event server alive action reinitialize
authentication host-mode multi-auth
authentication open
authentication order dot1x mab
authentication priority dot1x mab
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mab
dot1x pae authenticator
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spanning-tree portfast
interface FastEthernet0/6
switchport mode access
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authentication event server alive action reinitialize
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authentication port-control auto
authentication periodic
authentication timer reauthenticate server
authentication violation restrict
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dot1x pae authenticator
dot1x timeout tx-period 10
spanning-tree portfast
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interface Vlan1
ip address 172.16.0.204 255.255.240.0
no ip route-cache
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ip http server
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logging origin-id ip
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snmp-server community ciscoro RO
snmp-server trap-source Vlan1
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snmp-server enable traps snmp linkdown linkup
snmp-server enable traps mac-notification change move
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radius-server attribute 6 support-multiple
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radius-server attribute 25 access-request include
radius-server dead-criteria time 5 tries 3
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radius-server vsa send authentication
radius server ISE-Alex
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ntp server 172.16.0.1
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Configuring Cisco ISE for Authorization with External Radius Server attribute
Hi,
I'm trying to integrate an external radius server with Cisco ISE.
I created an External Identity Store>Radius Token Server.
I created a Identity Store sequence with just one identity store just as creadted above.
And I was able to authenticate successfully.
But when it comes to authorization.
I observed we just have one tab named Authorization while creating Radius Token server.
And it always refers to ACS:attribute_name.
If I want to define a IETF radius attribute, (lets say class with attribute id as 25), how could I do it.
In Cisco ACS we have a direct entry option in authorization tab where we can define the radius (IETF) attribute within Radius token server creation (within radius token server>Directory attribute tab).
How ever I try to define the IETF attribute here (class,IETF:Class) I am not able to authorize with this attribute value.
I tried with just one single authorization rule where it could hit.But observed it to go the default(as none of the rules defined matches the condition).
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Thanks in advance
Senthil KThis is the step of Creating and Editing RADIUS Vendors
To create and edit a RADIUS vendor, complete the following steps:
Step 1 From the Administration mega menu, choose Resources > RADIUS Vendors.
The RADIUS Vendors page appears with a list of RADIUS vendors that ISE supports.
Step 2 Click Create to create a new RADIUS vendor or click the radio button next to the RADIUS vendor that
you want to edit and click Edit.
Step 3 Enter the following information:
• Name—(Required) Name of the RADIUS vendor.
• Description—An optional description for the vendor.
• Vendor ID—(Required) The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA)-approved ID for the
vendor.
• Vendor Attribute Type Field Length—(Required) The number of bytes taken from the attribute value
to be used to specify the attribute type. Valid values are 1, 2, and 4. The default value is 1.
• Vendor Attribute Size Field Length—(Required) The number of bytes taken from the attribute value
to be used to specify the attribute length. Valid values are 0 and 1. The default value is 1.
Step 4 Click Submit to save the RADIUS vendor.
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