MB vs MBP weight

I was excited to hear about the MB being released. I am considering a new computer and with a trip to Asia planned this summer, a notebook sounds great. I was hoping the new MB would be lighter than the 15" MBP. It is, but only by a few ounces (≈ 3.2 oz.)! Now the question is whether or not I want to save a few hundred bucks or have the more powerful graphics and bigger screen.

MBP all the way. In a year from no you'll want the
additonal power and be glad that you had the MBP.
Some people will say that these will be obsolete in
a year but in that case it wouldn't matter which you
bought. More power = happier in the long run.
You're repeating an old statement that was true for the iBooks but much LESS true with the MacBooks. With the screen resolution bumped up to that of the original 15" Aluminum, and DVI, and monitor spanning, and a fast Core Duo (nothing close to that ever appeared on the iBooks), the gap is not as wide as it used to be. I was reading over the specs today and realized that all my friends who paid more for 15" PowerBooks because of the yawning gap between the iBooks and PowerBooks would have been more than happy with the MacBook if a comparable machine was available back then.

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Air vs MBP: weight enough of a justification?

So I have done a side-by-side comparison of the two laptops ( 13" Air vs 13" MBP with 128SSD ) and they are both within striking distance of the same cost. As far as I can tell, these are the differences:
- Air is about a pound and a half lighter
- MBP has a faster process, faster RAM bus speed ( 1333 vs 1066 ), more ports ( ethernet, etc ), and option to upgrade RAM to 8GB ( now or future )
The problem I am having is whether the lower weight of the Air justifies it's purchase over the expanded options for the MBP. What are everyone's thoughts?

>The problem I am having is whether the lower weight of the Air justifies it's purchase over the expanded options for the MBP.<
I went from a 13" Pro to an 11" Air and the difference in weight alone made it totally justified (IMHO). I can't speak for those who need workhorses or optical drives or 500G of hard drive come to that--for myself, I don't think I could ever go back to that heavier, bulkier laptop, even granted that it's light and slim as such laptops go.
Once you've used an Air, you start to wonder why you'd ever want an optial drive bulking it up. The weight change, even if it's only a pound or two, feels quite profound, and the slimness, too, is simply wonderful. You actually find that you can get it in and out of the bag faster because it's so much easier to handle one-handed. Packing and unpacking is speedy and easy, great for going through airport security or if you need to race off to an appointment.
Everyone else is quite right that it all depends on what you're doing with the laptop and your needs, but yes, weight and slimness count for more than you'd think. This is what laptops should be, travel machines that don't weigh you down, that can go where you go and have only as much on them as you require, not extras that (speaking for myself) you don't use all that much or need.

MBP - Remove optical drive to save weight?

Hi,
Is removing my MBP optical drive save a lot of weight?
Thanks
Bertil

... because the Optical Drive is very light indeed.

MBP 15" or 17" - weight, memory, performance

folks, I have funds to buy a new MBP. I currently have the Macbook - 13" (black one) and find it too small. I believe I will be happy with the 17" but again need some advise on whether it is worth the investment for atleast 3 yrs or so from now. Please advise. I also would want to know the difference between 15" and 17" besides the size of the screen. My friends keep saying 15" is enough but is that anything in the 17" that I can use to justify to myself that 17" is better? hope you understand i.e. does it weigh too much or too big to carry, etc etc. Cheers

I say go with what you love. Have you been to a store and actually played on both? Closed them and lifted them to feel the differing weights?
Really, we can give you arguments pro and con for that 17", but it's not until you stand in front of a 17" and play on it that you'll either find yourself scared ("Whoa! That's a small coffee table! What was I thinking?") and change your mind, or you'll fall in love ("Yes! Yes! It is Excalibur! Mine!"). If you fall in love, then hey, other people make it work and so can you. It is still a portable computer for all that it's a pretty big portable computer. People do love it, use it and are happy with it, otherwise Apple wouldn't still make it. So it can't be that cumbersome or weighty. It can only be too cumbersome or weighty for some people--like your friends who went 15". But they're not you, right?
You don't need excuses to get the 17" instead of the 15". You only need to check both out and know that the 17" really is for you.

MBP Retina or Powerful Ultrabook?

Hi, I've been a PC user all my life, but after working my way through the first iPod Nano, a couple iPod Touches, and now an iPad 2- I've grown to like the way Apple works. I'm finally at the point where I've decided to upgrade my 4-year old Future Shop sale Toshiba, which surprisingly has lasted me a good deal of time. However, I'm not a fan of the limited capabilities, the weight, and the fact that it very easily overheats (to nearly scalding temperatures), leading me to opt for my iPad most of the time. I'm a sucker for HD and quick boot-ups, so of course I fell in love with the MBP Retina when it was released. The only thing holding me back is the hefty price tag. Because of this, I began to research several ultrabooks and found that I could get the same specs (except for retina, but I'm fine with 1080p) and even a few bonus features (I would love a Blu-Ray drive and some accident-proof features) for half, or slightly-more-than-half of the price of the MBP. My favourite features of the MBP are the "little things"- fast bootup, magsafe, trackpad, and iCloud to work seamlessly with my iPad (which, i guess isn't really a "little thing"). I'm just not sure if these are worth the extra $1000 when I could just get an amazing PC.
I plan to use this computer in the following ways:
- Web browsing/ social networking
- Homework (university... of course)
- Entertainment (play movies, TV shows, etc)
- Some video and picture editing (I have a Sony camera which records AVCHD, which edits best on Sony Vegas)
- Running language software (i.e. Rosetta Stone)
So anyway, I'm not a gamer or a hardcore video editor, but I would like to be able to do some editing and video playback with clarity and without lag. As such, I figure I really only need the i5, so the base model of the Retina is fine for me. But again, I could get a **** good computer with i5 for much less money than the Retina, so I'm looking for reasons to sway either way. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
tj

Hmm...
'll readily admit, I'm a bit of an Apple head, so always say YEAH GO FOR IT.
However,
I'd say be aware, if you aren't going to use the power, you may be better going for alternatives, but I'll give you a rundown of some pro's and cons for your usage.
- Cold boots in 15 seconds flat
- can play 4 1080p streams at once without lag or framerate drop
- Photo editing on Aperture is excellent
- Photostream means your photos are there almost instantly wirelessly (not with the camera of course)
- Photoshop CS6 (when the retina patch is out) will look brilliant
- I had a photo zoomed out to fill half the screen size, of a whole person, yet could still see individual hairs on the head.
- Build, engineering, design and material quality unsurpassed in the industry (you cannot flex anywhere or make anything creak)
- Logevity, just upgraded from a 2008 Air - which was still going strong with no visible wear or damage/scratches
-Power, good graphics chip, switchable for battery life
- Video editing is amazing (on Final Cut Pro - which is Retina ready) you can veiw full 1080p with the interface still visible
Cons:
- Lag - on 'best for retina' its great, on 'More space' scaling, if you allow GFX chip switching, will cause serious lag - forcing the GeForce fixes this
- Other laptops will be great for your needs, and cheaper, but may not last as long
- The next generation in a year will likely iron out the lag issues
- Most programs are not yet retina ready - meaning they look... well... very dodgy indeed
I would say the MacBook is a fantastic machine and you will not regret the purchase, it will last you a good 3-5 years and you will thoughoughly enjoy it. It's an absolute joy to you and the trackpad and keyboard are brilliant. The speakers are also great.
However, you will likely get a notebook more than good enough for your needs, as you said, for much less money. If you can happily afford it - get the Mac, they are some of the finest computers money can buy. If it's a stretch - get a **** good alternative, you'll enjoy it equally and get great performance and some extra money in the old pocket!
Hope this helped a bit anyway - if you have any questions, ask away, more than happy to help

How to get plain old S-video and Composite out from a MBP?

Hi,
this question is about someone's MacBook Pro he newly bought with adapters to get both DVI and Svideo/Composite Out.
He got Mini DisplayPort to DVI-D converter, and a DVI-I to video converter, that cannot be plugged into a DVI-D port. Apple removed the analog capability of its adapter, that's bad. But what's badder is there doesn't seem to have any Mini DisplayPort to Svideo/Composite adapter, as there was with previous generation machines.
How can someone easily output analog video from MBP?

In fact, I recognize that these standards are old, which doesn't mean they're not up-to-date. Similar example, VGA connector is old, but perfectly useful, even in 2009. I recently plugged a 22" LCD with VGA and DVI on the same computer (a bland desktop PC), and there was strictly no difference. Same color depth, same crisp display. Even looking at a corner with a magnifier, nothing was different.
So, changing standards just for the sake of it doesn't make any sense.
Agreed that, as a pro, Apple would like me to buy their pro line, but nowhere in the pro line does an easy solution exists for S-Video and composite out. The solution you posted exists, but is unwieldly and not neat at all, if it doesn't break the Mac's connector under its weight. If a manufacturer can do this kind of adapter, Apple can do it better, and make a bigger profit out of it.
For the adapter you posted, I don't ever buy anything that is not at least Mac+Windows compatible, or at a minimum is open-source, so anyone with programming skills can make something. The manufacturer also doesn't give a clue on how this works. I guess some sort of virtual driver sits in the system as a virtual IEEE1394 port so any program requiring FW can work transparently. Still, incompatible with the OS that most manufacturer ship their new PCs with, poor commercial decision, wether you like the OS or not.
Adding FW in the MB unibody design wouldn't have cost anout $30. Rather, we're talking about a 25 cents chip, a 25 cents connector, which they would have rounded up to $20 and still, that was present in previous-gen MB. After all, they are indeed selling a matte screen on the MBP 17" for $50 more, despite them removing a single piece of glass which may cost, well, let's be fair, $5 to manufacture? That's dishonest. And capitalistically justified.
So far, choosing a Mac for one's needs is no easy task: older white MacBooks have the same power as unibodies, excellent connectivity, top notch transfer speeds, BUT are heavier, as not as ecologically friendly nor do they have future-proof RAM standard. The unibodies are sleekier, easily recycled and will be able to be upgraded in the near future BUT is most likely unable to use current devices and have slower transfer speeds.
For Pro models, the newer ones have great efficiency, much power and flexibility with their dual GPU BUT lost the option of matte screen, although their other pro-oriented monitors still default to matte. Only the 17" has the option. If a pro already finds his 15,4" bulky and with ample reserve power, will he buy the bigger and heavier 17"? Probably not.
I understand that Apple way of doing business is keeping only what's essential with no unnecessary options (I'm looking at you, Asus, with you at least 10 different versions of you netbook). But this time, not everyone can find what he or she wants in Apple's line of laptops, as opposed to the iPod thing, where virtually any possible preference is covered.

Am I doing the right thing of selecting MBP instead of rMBP?

Hi,
I'm a game developer and am getting my first Mac computer just to jump into iOS game development. I currently have a Core-i3 17" laptop and it's doing what I want but can't make iOS files. I'm not sure what to do with my current machine when I get the Mac, maybe I keep it for our game development team, maybe not.
I spent 3 weeks reading reviews and forum boards regarding MBP and rMBP and finally chose MBP but as I've read more MBP reviews, reviewers despite saying that MBP is a good machine, say that it's the last iteration of Apple in the design and "a thing from the past".
Let me tell you about my thought process and hopefully people can help me:
Display:
rMBP's best thing against MBP is it's display, which I don't think I have any use for. I usually work with text editors to write code and almost never watch movies with my laptop's screen and always connect it to my TV via HDMI and no game engine is Retina-enabled as of now and I don't have images that fit that display nor I do film editing or intensive photography/Photoshop. So if I get the Retina display, I'll mostly switch it to 1440x900 in order to "work" with most softwares and as I'll be still using Windows alot, the 2880x1800 has no usage there as none of the softwares that I work there updated themselves. But it's IPS/LPS technology will be lovely for me and I don't forget first time I saw one of those 27" Apple monitors that blew me away.
rMBP wins here but I'm afraid it will hurt me more than being useful to me.
HDD:
I'll surely install Windows there so a 256Gb SSD will fill up way easily. I'll keep a lot of stuff on my machine and getting a better external drive helps but if I get rMBP I'll have to buy one, which adds another $100 or $200.
Also give that if you fill up an SDD, you'll lose performance gradually, I'll probably have to invest around $200 to get an external HDD if I end up with rMBP.
Also I want to install games on Windows to use it's GPU and with 256Gb, that will suffer if you use more than it's %85, it will be a waste. I know I can install games on external drive but that's not cool.
Yes SSD is fast, and my helps my work and loading games but I think here the size matters more than speed.
So MBP wins here. (I can later change MBP's optical drive to an SSD and put my OS'es there)
Upgradibility:
Since I'll probably leave for a teaching job and there are not apple stores there, if I want to repair my machine, I'll have to use unauthorized repairs so fixing MBP's are hard already, give the glued battery and soldered RAM, makes it almost impossible.
And also if I get rMBP, I'll have to panic and upgrade RAM at least, even though even games do not need that amount of RAM and when they do, my GPU will be the bottle neck years before that.
(Very nice article regarding thsii: http://ifixit.org/2763/the-new-macbook-pro-unfixable-unhackable-untenable/)
MBP clearly wins here.
Weight & Size:
Yes I, like most people, prefer a lighter machine but since I'm to a 17" HP and an old Core Due Toshiba, I think the 15" MBP will be light enough and that extra lightness is not mandatory for me.
rMBP wins but goes to some extra points that MBP aldready has.
Optical Drive:
I almost do not use it, so I can live without one. But I like the fact that I, apparently, can remove MBP's super drive and put an SSD there, maybe I'll do this like in about a year or so that I'll upgrade it's RAM, give that I take MBP.
MBP wins, because I can remove the optical drive and put whatever I want instead.
Resale value:
rMBP wins, clearly. Because most people's brains are in their eyes.
Possible error:
rMBP is first generation and new batch of a new electronic product and we've already heard and read about defected machines and me living overseas will make it even worse if anything shows up.
One of the things that I don't like about MBP is that I feel like I'm buying a last-generation thing because clearly Apple's aim is towards Retina and SSD but I'm going against it. Maybe I'm all wrong and should trust Apple.
So what do you think on this? Please be specific as you like, I hate general sentences without proof. And if you compare things, please show some website or proof for it so it will be easier to talk on a solid base/accusation.
Thanks in advance. It will be my first Mac that I'm buying with a looot of savings, that's why I'm scared a bit.

Ordered 7/16/2012 the 2012 15.4" Macbook Pro (NON retina)
With:
2.6GHz i7 CPU
1GB GPU
HR Antiglare Screen
750GB 7200 RPM HDD (soon to be replaced with Crucial M4 SSD with a fresh install of Mountian Lion)
I really wanted the rMBP but just could not see the real value of the Retina display when the (HR) 1680 X1050 is really ideal for me. I also have the late 2011 Macbook Air that has 1440 X 900 resolution, it's not antiglare and not glossy either. I also have a 2006 Black Macbook with 1280 X 800 and it's not antiglare and not glossy. If the rMBP offered a antiglare display I'd probably still be deciding (took 3 weeks already).
The thoughts that keep me on the fence between the 15" rMBP and 15" MBP was "I need to buy the future and not invest in the past".
And since I made the decision Im glad I did (15" MBP Antiglare).
my Pros/Cons list
                         rMBP          MBP
Speed                   X                X     (tie, if add SSD)
Expansion                               X
Weight                  X
Generation                              X     (decided long ago to NOT buy 1st generation anything, if possible)
Repairability                            X
Resale                  X                       (not sure here but makes since, new beats old)
Antiglare                                 X
Cost                     X
Ports                                       X     (FW800, Gigabit Ethernet, DVD/CD drive)
Value                                       X

Is there a way to force a MBP to use the on-board on reboot?

My wife has a 2009 15" MBP that has the Nvidia 9400 and 9600 GT video cards. She's had repeated problems with flickering and crashes, it's been serviced once with a video failure doing a wide vertical band down the screen. It's out of warranty.
I'm pretty sure there's a problem with the 9600 video. What we'd like to do, since it's going to be a few weeks before we're in town to get to an Apple store and we can't do without the computer, is configure it to always boot to the 9400 card. Is there an easy way to do this? It seems like every time she has to reboot it, it always defaults to the 9600. We basically want it to totally ignore the 9600 and forget that it's there.
Thanks!

You might see if this works on your machine.
This third party utilitty is well worth its weight in gold:
http://codykrieger.com/gfxCardStatus

Did the regular 15" MBP receive the upgraded fans?

OK, we all know that the regular 13" and 15" MBP's were upadted and are just as capable, acually other than the display they are more capable and more flexible machines than the Retina MBP. The only thing that hasn't been talked about anywhere is the fans in the regular MBP's.
I bought my wife the late 2011 13" MBP 2.4GHz, 500GB (5400RPM) MBP and threw in 16GB of RAM to replace the 4GB that came in it, since it was cheap at OWC ($167). When I get the updated 15" MBP with 2.6GHz, 512 SSD and 8GB of RAM, I will swap them out so that I have the 16GB RAM and she has the 8GB of RAM. Another reason I wanted the 16GB of RAM is because I will be getting into Photoshop and a bit of video editinig for fun with all the videos and photos that I take and some gaming with D III and SC II. So that's the plan so far.
I'm torn at the moment between the 15" Retina and Non-Retina MBP. I love the new disply but I'm torn that Apple decided to upgrade a display while loosing other features like the Ethernet Port and SuperDrive two things we are far from not needing altogether. Although, Apple screens all around great and the Hi-Res on the regular will do fine, the Retina MBP is such a slick and powerful machine. The money isn't a problem and I've configured both online and I'm looking at this below;
15" MBP (non-Retina) $2,899.00
2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB
512GB Solid State Drive
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
MacBook Pro 15-inch Hi-Res Glossy Widescreen Display
Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide (English)
15" MBP (with Retina) $2,887.00
2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
512GB Flash Storage
Apple USB SuperDrive
Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide (English)
Apple Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
There's only a $12 difference in my configurations and I already have the 16GB of RAM for the non-Retina if that's the one I get. With the non-Retina I get all the connections with out all the extra cargo and fancy display. Yeah Apple dropped the weight of the Retina but when you consider the fact that if you want the additional capabilites then you're carrying the weight around anyhow with the extra cord for ethernet and the SuperDrive, but you do not always need the either of the two anyhow. Another thing is that you can't upgrade it after the fact but wth my configurations above I won't need to anyhow because the only thing that I'm not going with is the 768GB Flash Drive since I already have the 2TB Time Capsule for additional storage and it's where I keep most of my data anyhow other than my documents for school.
Any input would be greatly appreciated. I know that I've done a good bit of thinking out loud here but it helps me put things in a better perspective. I look forward to seeing your replies.

Clinton,
Thanks for the input. I've been on MacSales.com and if drop the SSD from Apple on the non-Retina the price drops to $2,089.00 from $2,899.00 which is almost 1K cheaper. I can get an OWC 480GB SSD for as cheap as $579. There are three versions though, 1. @ 3G/s with a 3 yr warranty for the price just mentioned, another at 6G/s @ $599 with a 3 yr warranty which would be the one to get, and the Pro at 6G/s @ $729 with a 5 yr warranty. So even going with the most expensive OWC brand I could still make out about 100 bucks or so. Not a bad call and I've already done research on puting the OS on a recovery drive so that I can install it on the new installed drive if I go that route.
Still not sure which I want to get. I feel that I'm going to go with the relaibilty in the regular MBP though. I'm not sure about the new one yet. I'll keep reserching to pin down an answer. I have time before I buy anyhow, I'm in no rush and plus it would take 3-4 weeks to get the Retina anyhow, so I'll just use the time wisely to get my duck in a row.
Thanks again.

Better for Video Editing? MBP 13" or 15" w/9600M GT

I am planning on purchasing a Macbook Pro for relatively extensive use of Final Cut Pro (HD video) along with possibly some light Motion work and video transcoding. In addition I will be using it for photo editing and web editing. I don't plan on using it for any high-end gaming.
I will be purchasing a $200 24" external monitor to use most of the time along with external keyboard and mouse (so MBP screen size isn't an issue), but I need the portability and don't have the funds to purchase an additional dedicated desktop yet.
I am having trouble deciding between the 13" and the 15", mainly due to conflicting opinions I've been hearing over the importance of a dedicated graphics card for video editing. Salespeople at the Apple store tell me it's important and I should get the 15". Research online yielded heated forum arguments over whether it really makes a difference or not.
The price difference is quite significant though at the configurations I picked ($765) so I am seeking advice here for whether people think the cost difference is really justified for my needs. Note that both configurations include 4GB of RAM, smallest hard drive option (i've got external drives) and AppleCare protection.
Pricing with education discount after tax:
13" 2.26GHz - $1520
15" 2.66GHz w/9600M GT 256MB - $2285
*Is there a real difference in video editing performance and if so, is it really worth an extra $765? Or is there a better option that I'm not considering?*

Thanks everyone for the feedback!
Studio X wrote:
Are you planning on making any money at this or are you only in it for fun? Have you ever edited before? Have you ever edited with FCS before? What of the 44 billion HD formats are you planning on editing? Do you have a camera? What format does it record? If it's a flash media based device, what's your back up strategy? How are you planning to externally monitor the HD material ? What are you planning to use as media drives as the system drive should not be used for media capture or playback?
Still, I guess I come down on the side of "it doesn't matter as neither one is a serious editing machine". If I was in the market for a laptop and was limited to the current apple lineup, the only machine of interest is the 17" MacBookPro. The other two MacBookPros you are considering have no expresscard slot and come only with glossy screens - both are serious deficiencies in my world.
I do plan on using this computer professionally. I am a recent college graduate but do have professional FCS editing experience under my belt. However my work was done using both school and employer resources. I do have an archive of work in Mini DV(HDV) and AVCHD formats. I don't currently own an HD camera, however will likely be purchasing one in the near future. As far as externally monitoring HD material, what else would I need other than the 24" external monitor (perfectly capable of full HD) or a separate HDTV? In addition to several older usb2 external drives for backup I do have a 1TB 7200rpm external capable of FW800 and eSATA that I would use as a media drive.
I currently have an old 17" dell notebook with a glossy screen. The screen hasn't really bothered me, but the size and weight of the notebook has. And while the 17" MBP is a little lighter and smaller than my old dell, I would still prefer a 13" or 15". But from the opinions I've been hearing I'm steering away from the 13" and fully realize the downsides to the lack of ExpressCard slot in the current 15" as well. Still wondering while Apple decided to remove it.
MartinR wrote:
If budget is a primary constraint, then consider a refurbished 15" or 17" MBP from Apple, or a used MBP from a reputable supplier.
I hadn't checked into the refurbished options, but now that I did, I found a nice 15" (late 2008 unibody) configuration that would provide a lot more value for the buck. For about $550 more than the new 13" config I would get a faster processor, 2" bigger screen, 9600M 512mb GPU, double the internal storage, removable battery as well as the ExpressCard slot (even though its not listed in specs, it's there). The only trade off I can see is battery life.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC026LL/A?mco=MjE0NjE5MA

Case recommendations for Mbp 13"?

I am loving my new MBP 13" and I am totally lost on what type of case to protect it to buy! I have read pros and cons about the hard icase as well as the satin case! I really want something that isn't as bulky but I don't want my mBp to get damaged either! Do these cases really protect it or is it more of a fashion statement? What is the actual necessity of having one?
Tiffany

I have a Speck Hardshell case (in clear). In my opinion, it adds no bulk and minimal weight (by like, maybe a few ounces). It's protected my computer from scratches, and I love it. It's a nice way to keep the unibody pristine while still showing off the aluminum or having a different color (I almost went with blue). I also have the Paul Frank monkey 13 inch sleeve for my MBP. With the Speck case on, it still fits in the sleeve perfectly and it's great for traveling and extra protection in my bookbag from spills, dirt, etc.
Edit: I also have the Moxi palmguard/trackpad cover to prevent it from getting dirty/worn down. It works wonderful and, despite the reviews, the trackpad still responds the same with the tap-click/regular click/gestures with no extra effort for me. I recommend getting the iKlear cleaning solution to clean your MPB as well for regular use as well as putting on the case (trapped dirt can scratch the MPB), and the iKlear works wonders cleaning the body, screen, and other electronics.
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Attaching MBP to a crt HDTV

I'll be getting a CRT HDTV soon and i was wondering if the picture, when hooking up the MBP, is as good as a LCD tv? I was wondering because i know if you try to hook up a computer to a non-HDTV CRT the picture is crap. I'll be using a DVI to HDMI cable. thanks

The output looks great on my LCD TV.
But the reason people pick LCDs is that they are light weight, thin, and low power. Nobody picks an LCD because of the superior image quality. While heavy, thick, and power hungry, a CRT should be bright and beautiful. Enjoy it.

How does new MB compare to old MBP?

Hi Guys,
In April of this year I bought a new MBP. I believe it to have the Penryn processor (whatever that means) and the multi-touch track pad. I miss the smaller footprint and lighter weight of my previous black MacBook.
I was just wondering how the specs of the new aluminium MacBook compare with my MBP. I currently have 2.4GHz Intel core 2 Duo, 4GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDram, 3MB L2 cache, bus speed 800MHz, GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 256MB Vram with a 200GB hard drive.
The new MacBook is 2.4GHZ, 2GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDram (though I could up the ram to 4GB), 3MB L2 cache, not sure of the bus speed, GeForce 9400M graphics with 256MB SDram and a 250GB hard drive.
Most of these details are very similar, but I don't know how much difference there is between 667MHz and 1066MHz, DDR2 and DDR3 SDram, and the 8600M GT processor with Vram verses the 9400M with SDram.
I am not concerned about the FireWire issue.
Any help from the enlightened ones would be most welcome.
Cheers

Hi,
I don't have neither Pro nor MacBook Al (yet, it's on the way), so I can't give you first hand answer. However you can compare benchmarks done by macworld.com.
Unfortunately, you have to go first to this website to see MacBook Al performance
http://www.macworld.com/article/136214/2008/10/macbookbenchmarks.html?t=201
and then to this one in order to compare with yours
http://www.macworld.com/article/132407/2008/03/macbookprocore2duo.html
Hope it gives you a bit more info.
Cheers.

MBP Keyboard

Well, I am typing this up on a stupid Dell laptop, and I have a few questions about the MBP keyboard.
Are the keys easy to hit, and not all "blah" like this keyboard.
And exactly what is it like. This keyboards space bar doesn't hardly work.
Any answers?

I have been a mac user for a long time. The best mac keyboard was definitly the original ADB pro keyboard that they stopped making like 10 years ago.
When I was in the market to buy a laptop a few years ago, I looked into the two options at the time: The ibook and the Powerbook. Believe it or not, I put a lot of weight on the feel and action of the keyboard and ended up spending the extra money ont he Powerbook. During my two year stint in powerbook land, I was continually impressed with the action.
Now I am on my next laptop, a macbook pro and I have say the action is still fantastic. The only problem that I notice with te keyboard is that they keys appear to bend at angles over time. I admit, I'm a hard typist, and so part of the warping could my typing, but I've only had the machine for a short while and at home I mostly use my external Pro keyboard (which is amazing).
Still, I think the keyboard is good, and dispite the slight warping I am still very happy with the keyboard.
Macbook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.7)

MBP vibrating after HD change

Hi,.
I recently upgraded my internal MBP HD from the stock 250 Gb 5400 RPM to a seagate 500 Gb 7200 RPM. For faster speed and more room to edit HD movies, for one thing...
The problem I have is that I always feel a vibration coming from the HD. This vibration can be feel on all the MBP and even on the table if the later is a bit cheap.
When I exchanged the 2 HD, I saw that the original HD had some kind of black rubber on its back. Could it be possible that this rubber was responsible to absorb the vibration of some sort?
Thanks

it could, but doubtful.
it's simply known and accepted that 7200rpm drives generally are louder and present more vibration than the slower spinning drives.
plus you have 250GB more weight inside that drive spinning around when going from a 250GB to a 500GB drive. more weight spinning will create more vibration.
geez, do ya think you get gigglebytes out of thin air or something? those suckers are heavy.
kidding aside, 7200rpm drives will generally be louder and vibrate more.

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