Middle button scrolling on TP T400

Hi,
I have a problem for some time. Since I updated kernel from 32.4 to newer version, my trackpoint middle button scrolling stoped working. I configured it trough hal, so this is my mouse-wheel.fdi:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<match key="info.product" string="TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint">
<merge key="input.x11_options.EmulateWheel" type="string">true</merge>
<merge key="input.x11_options.EmulateWheelButton" type="string">2</merge>
<merge key="input.x11_options.XAxisMapping" type="string">6 7</merge>
<merge key="input.x11_options.YAxisMapping" type="string">4 5</merge>
<merge key="input.x11_options.ZAxsisMapping" type="string">4 5</merge>
<merge key="input.x11_options.Emulate3Buttons" type="string">true</merge>
</match>
Everything is working fine, except this feature. Does anyone know some solution? I tried to google it, but nothing interesting. Thanks a lot.

i fixed the problem, this is what ended up working:
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Touchpad"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mouse0"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "SHMConfig" "on"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "UltraNav TrackPoint"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "on"
Option "Emulate3TimeOut" "50"
Option "EmulateWheel" "on"
Option "EmulateWheelTimeOut" "200"
Option "EmulateWheelButton" "2"
Option "YAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "XAxisMapping" "6 7"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection

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I played around with the config files, and have some results by now. Note that I use the touchpad too, which causes some more problems.
So the source of the problem was apparently my 50-synaptics.conf, in which the Touchpad sections used the "synaptics" driver. There were 2 occurrences, if I change both, it works!
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# This option is recommend on all Linux systems using evdev, but cannot be
# enabled by default. See the following link for details:
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MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
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Section "InputClass"
Identifier "touchpad ignore duplicates"
MatchIsTouchpad "on"
MatchOS "Linux"
MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/mouse*"
Option "Ignore" "on"
EndSection
# This option enables the bottom right corner to be a right button on
# non-synaptics clickpads.
# This option is only interpreted by clickpads.
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "Default clickpad buttons"
MatchDriver "evdev"
Option "SoftButtonAreas" "60% 0 0 2600 40% 60% 0 2600"
Option "AreaTopEdge" "2600"
Option "PalmDetect" "1"
Option "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "1"
Option "HorizHysteresis" "30"
Option "VertHysteresis" "30"
Option "FingerPress" "100"
# Option "SoftButtonAreas" "50% 0 82% 0 0 0 0 0"
# To disable the bottom edge area so the buttons only work as buttons,
# not for movement, set the AreaBottomEdge
# Option "AreaBottomEdge" "82%"
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Section "InputClass"
Identifier "trackpoint catchall"
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MatchProduct "TrackPoint|DualPoint Stick"
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Option "EmulateWheel" "1"
Option "EmulateWheelTimeout" "200"
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Option "XAxisMapping" "6 7"
Option "YAxisMapping" "4 5"
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# This option disables software buttons on Apple touchpads.
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Section "InputClass"
Identifier "Disable clickpad buttons on Apple touchpads"
MatchProduct "Apple|bcm5974"
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90-evdev-trackpoint.conf
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "TrackPoint"
MatchProduct "TrackPoint"
MatchDriver "evdev"
Option "EmulateWheel" "1"
Option "EmulateWheelButton" "2"
Option "XAxisMapping" "6 7"
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Thanks for your time, and keep up the great work!
Regards,
Laurent
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