Midi Instrument Track

Hi all,
still trying to get to grips with Logic7. I'm recording a song and I've run out of midi instruments. I can only seem to get 6 of them. If I add a track and go to the channel setting (under the toolbox) I can only access 6 of them. If I click on Instrument7 it changes Instrument 6 to instrument 7!
I've been trying for about 2.5 hours now and am fed up. Can anyone help
Thanks
Granger

Run the "setup assistant" and specify the amount of channels you want Logic to have available as default. Same with the Buses, and Aux, according to your needs!
You can also go to the "track" pulldown menu and add them that way, but it is just convenient to have them available from the get go.

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goldensteve wrote:
I believe that I have followed your instructions, but I am seeing the same result: both midi sources trigger (and record) each other. Hmm.
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drcarrmorris wrote:
hey guys, i have a MOTU 24i interface and allen/heath board. with this setup i can record up to 24 separate "real instrument" tracks at once into my Mac Pro w/ 5GB ram and 500GB HD.
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is this correct? why on earth they would limit it to 8 is beyond me. i have 7 mics on the drums alone!!!
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