Might have a weak motherboard - any comments or advice?
This is the system I have setup
AMD64 3200+
MSI K8N Neo4 nForce4 Ultra
Wavemaster Case
OCZ Gold Series Dual 1GB DDR PC-3200
Thermalright XP-90
OCZ ModStream 520W
Sapphire Radeon X800 XL
I have been playing with the overclock for a few days. The machine runs very stable at stock speeds.
I have had a problem getting my fsb above 230 so I decided to isolate the HTT and the CPU and the Memory to see which was giving me the problem.
So I started with the HTT. I set my cpu mult to 8x and my memory to 166 and 2.5-3-3-8 2T and started pushing my fsb at htt 4x.
I was able to post at only 230 then I bumped my northbridge volage some but I could not get the board to post above 235fsb with htt set to 4x or 3x. The board runs fine at 200 htt5x though. So I thought maybe the hard drive sata port isnt locked so I unplugged my hard drive to see if the bios would post and it still did not work. It starts to post and then the hard drive light stays on and it just sits there.
So I backed off the clock to 230 and htt 4x and reset my cpu to 10x and my memory to 2-2-2-8 1T and the machine runs prime stable for 12 hours. This seems to tell me I have something in my motherboard that is not stable at almost any overclock level of the fsb. Any ideas or comments? Did I get a weak motherboard?
I have seen many people reaching the 270fsb level so I am not sure why my board can not come close to 250 which is my goal.
What I hoped to run was 250 htt4x with the best memory timmings I could get. But right now the motherboard seems to be holding me back.
Any help would be apreciated.
I have exactly the same problem. No problem with no OC, MemTest-86 and Prime95 ok.
I saw a excellent article on anandtech.com: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=1497607&enterthread=y
First I tries to detect the max HTT/FSB. According to this article I put the CPU multi to 6, the memory to SPD, 2T and memoryclock to 100.
HTT to 4.0. CPU spread spectrum, PCI-e spread spectrum and SATA to disabled. Vcore 1.50V and Vmem 2.60V
FSB 200 en 210 ok. Then FSB 220 the BIOS doesn't start anymore. THe power- and the HDD-led lights continuous and no image on the screen.
I have to reset the BIOS with the button on the board to get back to normal.
I haven't tried Clockgen. As soon as I have results a report back.
My system specs:
BeQuiet Powersupply 400W, +12V 20A
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum BIOS 1.1
Winchester 3200+
Leadtek Geforce 6600GT
2 x 512MB Crusial Ballistic PC3200
120 Gb Maxtor
Windows XP Pro S2
nVidia nForce4 standalone driver v6.39
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|6|4|2|5|7|3|1|9|8|
|1|5|6|4|2|7|3|8|9|
|4|7|9|3|6|8|5|1|2|
|8|2|3|9|1|5|6|4|7|
|7|8|4|1|3|2|9|5|6|
|2|3|5|6|8|9|4|7|1|
|9|6|1|7|5|4|8|2|3|
./Sudoku completed BruteForce
Starting configuration:
|5|1|8|2|9|6|7|3|4|
|3|9|7|8|4|1|2|6|5|
|6|4|2|5|7|3|1|9|8|
|1|5|6|4|2|7|3|8|9|
|4|7|9|3|6|8|5|1|2|
|8|2|3|9|1|5|6|4|7|
|7|8|4|1|3|2|9|5|6|
|2|3|5|6|8|9|4|7|1|
|9|6|1|7|5|4|8|2|3|
Final configuration:
|5|1|8|2|9|6|7|3|4|
|3|9|7|8|4|1|2|6|5|
|6|4|2|5|7|3|1|9|8|
|1|5|6|4|2|7|3|8|9|
|4|7|9|3|6|8|5|1|2|
|8|2|3|9|1|5|6|4|7|
|7|8|4|1|3|2|9|5|6|
|2|3|5|6|8|9|4|7|1|
|9|6|1|7|5|4|8|2|3|
Number of attempts: 0.
Time elapsed: 0.00 s.
Segmentation fault
So what's wrong here?
Having implemented the basic functionalities, I tried to play around and gain some simple experience in some optimization. I looked at the Go() function and saw probably the expensive operation is IsConsistent(), so I optimized it by only checking the consistency of changed boxes. By doing so, I reduced the computational time to around 1/3 the original time. Is this the right move, or bad move, or are there better moves?
As a last question, I defined the number of attempts as a global variable. My reason is that, although it is possible to put it in class Board, I just think it doesn't "naturally belong" there, and putting it in a restricted scope would mean a lot of passing of parameters, slowing the program down unnecessarily. So, is this global variable fine?
Lastly, please have a look at my Makefile. This is the first Makefile I wrote, and it took me 3 solid days to get all the .o files in Release/ ! Are there things I've left out?
I realize the Generator is a joke, but at this moment I don't care too much about that, unless anyone has some good ideas.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!Grazz256 wrote:
Just looking over your code a little I have a couple of comments about your coding style. Please keep in mind that these are just comments...
I think you need to comment your code more. I know its a pain and I'm horrible about it as well but it really does help when/if you go back to read your code in a couple of years.
I try to avoid lines like these:
fprintf( stdout, "Starting configuration:\n" ); a->Write(stdout);
start = clock(); a->Go();
by putting two commands on one line it makes the code harder to read. with one command on each line I can quickly scan through and know
generally what each line does, with two I have to actually read each line fully so that I don't miss anything.
Descriptive variable names can also help with readability, I've always been taught the convention of using the first character to indicate type then
using a short descriptive name. For instance you have a function that returns a long value, the value would be decalred like this:
long lRetVal;
so looking through the code I would know thats a long value that represents a return value.
This is an area I'm all over the place with, I always try to stick to one convention but never seem manage it...
As far as your problem goes, where are the boards normally deleted? ie if an incomplete sudoku is inputed?
One possible solution is to run an IsComplete check before you start processing the board. so you would have...
if (a->IsConsistent()) {
if (a->IsComplete()) {
a->Go()
I'll be honest in that I don't really understand the flow of your code, but instead of having the board deleted within strategy or within win why not just delete it on the next line... eg:
start = clock(); a->Go();
delete a;
the downside to this approach is that you would have to delete it within each exception as well but this is relatively minor.
Cheers
Thanks for your comments. At my present level of programming skills, any comments will help.
I thought all my code was basically concise and self-explanatory, and each function is small enough that a quick skim through the definition and declaration would be enough to understand. As the project grew, however, things got slightly more complicated. I have added more comments in my source files, trying to comment why rather than how. I thought the flow of the code was fairly obvious though, by inspecting the main loop. It takes care of the input, bark if anything's wrong, trigger a.Go(), and try to catch a Win. Do you mean the flow within Go()? Anyway, it is very true I need clearer coding style.
Yeah I now solved the segfault problem. The reason a completed sudoku was deleted twice is because the original sudoku is meant to be deleted by the abstract factory, while the solved sudoku is meant to be deleted by Win. When a solved sudoku is inputted it would be deleted twice. Due to lack of programming experience, I failed to see the obvious way is to, as Grazz256 said, check in the beginning whether the inputted sudoku is already solved. If it is, then I duplicate the inputted sudoku and throw the win exception.
By the way, I think I'm beginning to understand why some people are obsessed wtih optimization. I did 3 optimization techniques in my program. First, I thought the most expensive procedure is the IsConsistent() method. By evaluating it lazily I reduced the time to 1/3 the original time. Then following http://www.acm.org/crossroads/xrds1-4/ovp.html, I used initialized the 2D vector within each sudoku via constructor rather than as statements. Doing so gave a 20% time boost. Using a friend procedure while copying sudokus boost another 5%. Doing a right move and getting positive feedback through better performance can be so satisfying.
EDIT:
I found out there was memory leak after all, which I finally solved.
What happens is with all my brute force algorithms I keep creating new Board's and call the Board's Go() recursively. To delete all Board's in the heap I need to have, within each Board::Go(), instead of
Board* a = Clone(); // return new derived Board(*this);
a->Put(x,y,'0'+k);
a->Go();
delete a; // if an exception is thrown this line never gets executed
this
Board* a = Clone();
a->Put(x,y,'0'+k);
try {a->Go(); }
catch( const Win& e) {
delete a;
throw(e);
delete a;
But this deletes the winning sudoku too. This means I have to keep the result in Win, either by duplicating the winning sudoku or storing the string. In the end I overloaded Board::Write(File* f) to also have Board::Write(std::string& p) to sprintf on the reference of a string, so Win just stores the solution in string format. Finally, no memory leak, no need to do a first check to see if the inputted sudoku is already solved, and no pointer deleted twice.
So in the end, to manage pointers I recursively threw exceptions. That made me ask, is using exceptions worth it, or should I stick to the more conventional methods, such as have Go() return a boolean value, then deleting pointers which would give an implementation that is essentially the same as recursive exceptions?
I still think exceptions is the way to go, the reasons being:
1) Exception mechanism provide a natural place to hold the result. Throwing exceptions recursively and the traditional way is essentially the same, but where should the result be stored in the latter case?
2) Arguing over the dictionary, an exception is not necessarily an "error." Winning is an exception in this algorithm, because failure is the norm (as in life).
3) Exception arguably gives better presentation in the main loop, to my "unbiased" eyes at least. Board* a->Go() is triggered in the try block in the main(), with all (foreseeable) possible results caught as exceptions. It is true that this might be a bit unconventional, but given proper comments I still think it is at least as good as the conventional way, in terms of presentation.
So what do you think?
Last edited by dumas (2009-12-21 12:37:47) -
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You may have installed the "VSearch" trojan. Remove it as follows.
Malware is always changing to get around the defenses against it. These instructions are valid as of now, as far as I know. They won't necessarily be valid in the future. Anyone finding this comment a few days or more after it was posted should look for more recent discussions or start a new one.
Back up all data before proceeding.
Step 1
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This trojan is often found on illegal websites that traffic in pirated content such as movies. If you, or anyone else who uses the computer, visit such sites and follow prompts to install software, you can expect more of the same, and worse, to follow.
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