Migrating from iPhoto '08 to Aperture 3.1 problems

Hi,
I am hoping somebody can help me.
I have a MBP and have been filling up my hard drive with photos over the past couple of years, always importing them into iPhoto.
The problem is my hard drive is now nearly full and what I would really like to do is keep all my photos OFF the laptop hard drive and mirrored onto two external drives instead, thus freeing up a ton of space on my MBP and protecting my photos at the same time.
I looked into it and I can't really do this with iPhoto but I can with Aperture so I upgraded to Aperture.
OK so far so good. The problem is when I tried to get my Aperture to import my iPhoto library. It said it needed 16GB of free space in order to execute this so I found ways to get that with room to spare (23GB) and started the import process. Now it has sucked up he 23GB and says the hard drive has run out of free space. The photos appear to have all been imported BUT it is still processing the photos it has imported and this seems to be what is continuing to suck up the free space.
I want to get to the point where I can tell Aperture to move the photos off of the laptop hard drive but I'm afraid to do that while it says it is still processing photos. But whenever I make more room on the hard drive it just consumes the free space again. I am running out of other files to move off my computer to make more room. I have no idea how much room Aperture will demand in the end before it will stop consuming free space on the hard drive.
Can anyone give me advice. I'm afraid to do anything that might cause me to lose photos. My goal again is to get all my photos stored off my computer and mirror them so that they are backed up on two external hard drives at once.
Once that is done I would be happy to discard the superfluous iPhoto library on the computer to save space (no need to be able to access the photos in iPhoto after I'm done.)
Please advise as I'm stuck in the middle of this process and I don't know what to do.
Thanks.

I have to tell you, I've been avoiding doing so out of fear it may destabilise my system, especially cause installed software to go wonky.
You are right, to be careful. MacOS 10.6.8 is a very good and stable system, and I would not give it up needlessly. But now the new versions of both Aperture and iPhoto do need the latest Lion version. So you will be left out, if you do not upgrade.
If you ever take the plunge, take the following precautions:
Check which of your installed Applications that youdepend on are still PowerPC Applications and require the Rosetta environment. These applications will not run with Lion. Select the application in the Finder and choose "Get Info" from the File menu; if the application is listed as being Universal, it is o.k.,If the application is listed as Application (PowerPC), it will require Rosetta on an Intel Mac, and it never will run with MacOS X 10.7 or later. Try to upgrade all PowerPC applications to "universal" or "Intel" applications before you upgrade the system.
Make sure you have your regular Time Machine backup.
Create a bootable clone of your current system on an external disk and check it carefully before you upgrade. This way you will be able to revert to the old system easily, or simply boot from the one, if you need to run older software that does not run with Lion.
Rebuild your Aperture Library with the Aperture 3 first AId Tools before upgrading and make sure, you have a backup of your library.
Regards
Léonie

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