Mixing down X-Fi MIDI with effec

Hello,
I'm using Cubase SX, and I have a few drum tracks where I'm using the on-board synth of my X-Fi card. (I'm using another device - M-Audio 40 - for audio recording).
Now I want to include the MIDI drums in the mix, so I need to record them on an audio track.
How do I do that?
* Is there a way to do it internally (routing the signal)?
* Or do I use the SPDIF output of the X-Fi to feed the M-Audio?
* Or do I use the analog output of the X-Fi to feed the M-Audio?
Additional question: I need some reverb on the track, can I use the X-Fi onboard effects for this? I tried it using the console, but I couldn't apply any effects on the X-Fi output ...
Or are all these questions irrelevant? Can I access the X-Fi synths/effects with a VST instrument or similar?
any help is appreciated
/Tomas

Here is one method you could use:
w/ Cubase SX -3 (maybe SX 4 is different), you can 'bounce' MIDI (drum) track(s) into audio track(s) (one track at a time) using "what u hear" method (ASIO input ports Mix L/R are same as "What U Hear" (least w/ Audigy cards)):
- enable Mix L and Mix R (maybe differently named in X-Fi) as input ports (VST Inputs)
- add new Stereo Bus and select Mix L/R as ports (VST Connections)
- set ASIO latency as low as possible (Device setup-VST Multitrack) and enable Lower Latency (Expert settings)
- create a new stereo audio track and set it input from Mix L/R (set track output to master)
(- mark the area (timeline: left/right locators))
- solo the MIDI (drum) track
- record the new track
- mute the original MIDI (drum) track
You can add X-Fi onboard effcts to this new track by setting the track output to some of those "ASIO FX n" output ports (needs st to be enabled in VST Outputs/VST Connections). It's maybe best if you make a copy of the track(s) and direct its output through internal effects (otherwise there may be issues w/ tracks output levels).
You can also add any VST/DX effects to this/these audio track(s) normally, which I recommend rather than using onboard effects. There are many excellent freeware effect plug-ins available and you can find them through KVR plug-in database (as for an example).
jutapaMessage Edited by jutapa on 0-02-20070:5 AM

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