Modelling Process in NW CE 7.1 SR5

Hi Experts,
I am new to NetWeaver. I have installed SAP NW Composition Environment 7.1 SR5. I am working on a PoC as follows
The solution aims at integrating 2 legacy applications. The solutions components are as follows
1. JCA (J2EE Connector Architecture) connectors for the applications
2. Thin wrapper of WebServices on these JCA connectors
3. A Business Process that invokes the WS operations. The WS operation in turn invokes corresponding operation on the JCA connector.
I have tested this solution in a J2EE compliant Application Server JBoss. Now I have to migrate this solution to SAP NetWeaver platform.
Please help me on how to define the business process in SAP NW CE 7.1 environment. Does PI need to installed separately or it comes bundled into the NW CE platform? How to access it?
Since I am new, I may be asking wrong questions. Please provide me correct information.
Thanks.
JK

Hello,
Please refer,
NW installation and maintenance guides.. (S id needed)
https://websmp107.sap-ag.de/instguidesnwce711
Configuring NW
https://cw.sdn.sap.com/cw/docs/DOC-105293
Regarding NW PI refer:
SAP Enhancement Package 1 for<br>SAP NetWeaver Process Integration 7.1
br,
Pushkar

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