Moving a chart in numbers

Hi,
I'm a recent ex-Excel user and now i'm working with Numbers and well i'm a bit lost. I have to get rid of my old habits and get used to Numbers. Now I'm trying to make a chart on Sheet1 while data are on Sheet2, and I can't manage. I managed to create a chart with data on the same sheet so I thought I could move it on the right sheet, but it doesn't work either. Can somebody help me?

Hi Mischievious,
Here is a table with its associated Chart on the same Sheet:
Here is a shot of the Sheets Pane to the left of the Numbers window:
In the Sheets Pane, drag the Chart to another Sheet:
Table 1 on Sheet 2 is not the same as Table 1 on Sheet 1. The Chart will continue to take its data from Table 1 on Sheet 1. Numbers automatically adjusts the references when you move an object.
Regards,
Ian.
Message was edited by: Yellowbox. If Table 1 on Sheet 2 is not important, you can delete it. It was created automatically (blank table) when I added Sheet 2.

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Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France)
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--[/SCRIPT]
--{code}
Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) samedi 27 août 2011 15:19:15
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