MSI K8N SLI Freezes when using PCIe GFX
Build a new system with K8N SLI motherboard, AMD 64 3200+, Chill Innovation 510W PSU with 20 pin - tried with a 20-24 pin converter - no difference.
My problem is that when i use a PCIe GFX card the system freezes randomly, tried 2 different cards. An Asus X600XT Extreme and Leadtek 6600GT Extreme, but problem is the same. I have an old PCI Radeon 7000 GFX and with this, the computer runs perfect.
Both CPU and motherboard has been changed to a new one - didn't help.
Have installed newest graphic driver and Nforce driver. Tried both 3.0 and 3.1 motherboard bios. Changed HTT to 800, PCIe to 90 (clock generator).
Can it really be my PSU which causes the problem?
HELP!!
TiM :(
Sorry of course, here it's
My system:
Athlon 64 3200+
MSI K8N SLI (tried both bios 3.0 and 3.1)
2*512 Elixir PC3200 3-3-3-8 running at 166 mhz right now.
Chill Innovation 510W (20 pin connector, specs : http://www.chill-innovation.com/cp510A-output.asp)
160 GB Seagate Baracuda
Creative Audigy 2
Pioneer 108 + 109 dvd burner
Leadtek 6600GT Extreme PCIe or Asus X600XT Extreme PCIe
Saphire Radeon 7000 PCI
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MSI K8N SLI - Freezes Randomly - Need Help!!!
Hi,
Can anybody help me? My PC keeps freezing and sometimes BSOD'ing on me and i have no idea what the hell the reason is. I've tried changing graphics drivers, sound drivers, checked for bios updates and all the usual stuff. I've had a scou around the net and these forums and quite a few people seem to be having this problem and appears to be related to the PCIe Graphics. Not sure if this is the case but a lot of peole report this. One person said it was his audigy card and on removing it the problem went away. But, I don't fancy sacrificing my audigy card for the onchip sound if I can find a work around.
Is it the motherboard at fault with the PCIe interface or the Audigy or something else? If anyone has any ideas it would be fantastic!
AMD Athlon64 3000+
MSI K8N SLI OEM
Corsair DDR400 Dual Channel Value RAM
Leadtek GeForce 6800GT
Audigy 2 ZS
Samsung 40BG SATA HD
DVD-ROM
CD-R/RW
Jeantech 500W PSUHello !!
Try this NEW Forceware Drivers 81.85 they fix many issues with SLI systems.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_81.85.html
Don´t forget to deinstall your existing drivers correctly before installing the new ones.
Good Luck
Greetz MurdoK -
Recommend me a PSU for MSI K8n SLi Mobo
I recently purchased a MSi K8n SLi Mobo with a X800XL GFX Card and was sold a Hiper 425 PSU, after getting everthing home a built it has come to my attention that to make the onboard sound work, that Pin 20 on the PSU must be -5. The PSU that was sold to me does not carry this pin 20 -5V.
Can somebody please recomend me a PSU that will have this -5V pin at Postion 20
Thanks for any Help
Az-HudsonQuote from: kctay on 03-March-05, 01:01:05
Turbo Cool 510-SLI
http://www.pcpowerandcooling.com/products/power_supplies/highperformance/turbocools/510/
But I see that you have an ATI video card? Does that mean that you have no plans to actually use the SLI component? This makes a big difference since one card requires much less power.
I was lucky enough t have won my GFX Card, but i do plan on eventually going SLi
And thanks to all who replied -
MSI k8N SLI Platinum - dead??
Hello,
I have started the PC as per usual. Pushed the power button... nothing. Then again... nothing. Then I swithed off from the switch near the mains entry. and switched on... PC started however I get nothing on the screen. No beeps.
I have an Antec Truecontrol 2.0 power supply, an MSI K8N SLI Platinum (socket 939) with AMD Athlon, 2 GB Corsair TWINX Ram, three HDDS SATA, Raptor 75GB as Primary (C:) and another two WDS. Video Card: BFG 7800GTX+ 256MB OC, PCI - Express.
System has functioned Ok for three and a half years at least. I have replaced the Northbridge Fan from the beginning with a Blue heatsink - I believe Zalman. No temp issues. No overclocking, I am not using any commander modes etc etc.
When I look at the D-Bracket I get Memory Init Error (RED-GReen-Red-Red). I am pretty sure it is not the RAM. I pulled the RAM, used only one stick... same error.
I pulled the video card out. Then interestingly the system reaches the phase just before booting and the D_Bracket shows Floppy Init error (Green-Red-Green-Green). I tried moving the video card to the second PCI -ex - I also reach the Floppy Error point. I put in a crappy PIC-Ex video card - I reach the same Floppy init point - the floppy actually seeks but does not try to read. Unfort I forgot where I put the Monitor adapter thingy so I can;t check if I get anything on the screen with the crappy PCI-Ex video card. Will get it... soon...
I have a hard time determining whether it is the Video card or the mainboard. I have pulled the battery out, left overnight, pushed the BIOS reset... nothing helped. With Video Card in PCI-Ex slot 1, I get the memory init error. With the card in PCI-Ex slot 2 or with no card or with crappy PCI-Ex, I get to the Floppy Init point.
Could it be that at that point I would be getting a VGA error that I cannot see on the screen ? Why then NO BEEPS? Does this Mobo model not beep, just uses the D-Bracket?
It is important - if it is the mobo I am done for, I have to buy Mobo, RAM, CPU... $1,000. If it is the Video card I may find something 1 slot wide and similar to the BFG ...
Can anyone help narrow this please ?
BTW on the screen I get NOTHING, if I pull out the cable the monitor says - check connection, if I plug it in the monitor goes to power saving.
Thank you HeapsQuote from: Bas on 19-January-09, 00:17:28
Put a stick of memory in there of el-cheapo brand.
Those Corsairs you have need more voltage to start if I'm not mistaken.
Found out what the prob was - the BFG 7800GTX was DEAD. RMA-ed the card. the MSI Mobo is Ok -
MSI K8N SLI and Athon 64 X2 4200+: some problems
Hi from France
I've try to upgrade my computer all day long, and still have no solution about this..
Mainboard: MSI K8N-SLI
Processor: Athlon 64x2 4200+
RAM: CORSAIR 1Go *2 PC 3200
Graphic card: MSI X1950 Pro 256 Mo Radeon
2 HD (WD 250 Go and WD 160 Go) on IDE 133 (supplied by the mainboard)
OK, I've connected everything, everythings seems to be well started, the CPU is recognized as ATHLON 64 X2 4200+, and I try to go into BIOS by pressing "DEL", as it is written on my screen (just beside "F11 to boot sequence)
Nothing happened, it seems that it freezes...
When I start the computer, I hear my HD starting, the graphic card also, everything...
But what's going on ??
I'm a little bit disappointed, it's not the first time I do this kind of upgrade...
I've rebuilt my computer with "old" configuration MSI K7N L Athlon XP 3000+ and MSI 6600 Geforce
Every thing is ok
I don't understand, can somebody helps me
SOrry for my bad technical english...Quote from: eagle78 on 01-January-07, 07:58:35
First of all
HAPPY NEW YEAR (in France, it's done)
And for my computer, all is allright now
Like a silly boy, I've connected too much things in the beginning (USB Hub I've forgot not to plug)..
And so without that, computer boots well, CPU is seeing good, RAM is OK and all the drives..
Some problems with my OS (XP and SP2), but as somebody says above, I needed to "repair" it, and all is good now
Thanks for your answer...
Best regards...
happy new year nice everything goes well -
MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM NOT OVERCLOCK FRIENDLY AS PROMISED
This mobo is good but its false advertisment to call it overclock friendly.
People are having problems getting ther FSB over 220 and this is a overclocking mobo.
MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM (really disappointed over the mobo)
POINT OF VIEW GEFORCE 6800ULTRA @450/1300 (Really good)
Crusial ballistiX PC4000 (Great memory)
Aspire 520watt 35amp (strong as hell)Quote from: ALFA on 25-April-05, 10:09:30
This mobo is good but its false advertisment to call it overclock friendly.
People are having problems getting ther FSB over 220 and this is a overclocking mobo.
MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM (really disappointed over the mobo)
POINT OF VIEW GEFORCE 6800ULTRA @450/1300 (Really good)
Crusial ballistiX PC4000 (Great memory)
Aspire 520watt 35amp (strong as hell)
Dear Friend don't get angry too quickly. I also have a socket 939 Athlon 3000+ Winchester. In start MSI K8N SLI Platinum was not allowing me to OC more than 220FSB in BIOS. Although in Windows I can OC it to 2.16 GHZ with NVidia NTune. It's 240FSB. You are facing the same problem that I was facing. Its 219MHZ Bug for Winchester CPUs.
All you need to do is when you are OC'ing more than 219 MHZ, just set you HT multiplier to 1x and you can go upto 260MHZ FSB via BIOS. When you get to the desktop of windows use any software to set the multiplier back to 4x or 5x (depends on how much you OC). Nvidia Ntune is a good software for this purpose. Plz keep in mind that Winchester cores are not too much overclocking friendly CPUs. They won't go beyond 2.4 GHZ and instability is bound to happen after 2.3 GHZ. -
MSI K8N SLI Platinum crashed with my videocard
Hi. I don't speak english very vell, so sorry
A bought an MSI K8N SLI Platinum mainboard, 7800 GTX Videocard and I don't know use it with NON SLI mode If the SLI card there in NON-SLI mode, my pc isn't run. Just black screen, and the D-Bracket is show, that the booting is stopped in memory-control (second LED is red.) If I turn my SLI card for SLI mode, accordingly the PCI-E bus is 8x and my PC is run.
My problem is that, that I don't know run my pc in PCI-E x16
I tried 6 BIOS, but always was this is the problem
Ha van itt magyar ember, akkor magyarul a probléma:D:
Szóval van egy ilyen lapom, de nem tom használni 7800 GTX-el. Egyszerűen nem tudom használni non sli módba, a kép mindig fekete és memória-ellenőrzésnél megáll sli módban meg megy a gép, de csak 8x-os üzemmódba. ugyan ez a hiba egy 6600 gt-vel is. Szóval helllllpQuote from: ChakkaSol on 30-October-05, 08:57:50
First, search the internet for a free translater program and cut n paste. Second, you need to place the graphics card in the pcie slot next to the cpu. Third, you need to make sure the SLI switch card is placed "non-sli" with the arrow pointed towards the graphics card. Finally, you need to make sure your SLI switch card is fully in place so the copper teeth dont show (I made that mistake and my rig didnt boot either). Just my 2 cents.
1st -- ok
2nd - the video card is there next to the cpu in 1st PCI-E bus
3rd -- the SLI switch card is placed non-sli with the arrow pointed towards the graphics card.
fin --- well, i have no idea about this, 'couse after i've removed the card, i could not push it back to its place fully anymore, so the copper teeth show up. I also tried to force it with a screwdriver, but it didn't work. but i can turn on the card holder -
MSI K8N SLI Platinum & 7950GX2
MSI K8N SLI Platinum & 7950GX2
Does anyone know if this combonation works?
cheersQuote from: HemiR on 12-July-06, 10:58:37
I was looking at getting xfx PV-T71U-ZDD9 XXX EDITION , good brand?
I have a silverstone zeus ST65zf 650watt SLI\PCI-E certified psu..
"I was looking at getting xfx PV-T71U-ZDD9 XXX EDITION , good brand?"
-yes exelent choise. XFX Ruls, very quality product also, XXX EDITION is comes nice OC directly from manifacturer. im also using XFX 7600GT XXX EDITION.
"I have a silverstone zeus ST65zf 650watt SLI\PCI-E certified psu.."
-looks oki but cant confirm 100%. basicly its goodone also. -
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MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM NOT OVERCLOCK FRIENDLY AS PROMISEDQuote from: ALFA on 25-April-05, 10:09:30
This mobo is good but its false advertisment to call it overclock friendly.
People are having problems getting ther FSB over 220 and this is a overclocking mobo.
MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM (really disappointed over the mobo)
POINT OF VIEW GEFORCE 6800ULTRA @450/1300 (Really good)
Crusial ballistiX PC4000 (Great memory)
Aspire 520watt 35amp (strong as hell)
Dear Friend don't get angry too quickly. I also have a socket 939 Athlon 3000+ Winchester. In start MSI K8N SLI Platinum was not allowing me to OC more than 220FSB in BIOS. Although in Windows I can OC it to 2.16 GHZ with NVidia NTune. It's 240FSB. You are facing the same problem that I was facing. Its 219MHZ Bug for Winchester CPUs.
All you need to do is when you are OC'ing more than 219 MHZ, just set you HT multiplier to 1x and you can go upto 260MHZ FSB via BIOS. When you get to the desktop of windows use any software to set the multiplier back to 4x or 5x (depends on how much you OC). Nvidia Ntune is a good software for this purpose. Plz keep in mind that Winchester cores are not too much overclocking friendly CPUs. They won't go beyond 2.4 GHZ and instability is bound to happen after 2.3 GHZ. -
Is my speaker system compatible with MSI K8N SLI Diamond?
Hi!
Can I use my old speaker system with MSI K8N SLI Diamond. My speaker system is Creative Inspire 5.1 5500D Digital with decoder. Now 5.1 sound doesn't work properly. When I try look movie with PowerDVD6, center speaker is dead and no speech on movie. On PowerDVD6, SPDIF output is selected and tried also 6.1 channel options but no, speech will not play at center speaker. Some games too 5.1 surround doesn't work. I have connected my speaker system on motherboard coaxial SPDIF to speaker systems Decoder coaxial SPDIF, and speakers on that decoder. Do I have to buy new analog speaker system to get 5.1 surround working? If I connect my speaker system directly on MB analog outputs, sound balance in very bad, rear and front speaker is good but center speaker crackling and speech at center speaker sound like volume level is much too high.Quote from: Stick on 10-February-06, 19:24:28
if you know that the speakers are working (tested on another pc) it is usually a software configuration error. if the decoder would mess up the sounds, it is unlikely that you would hear anything in the other speakers too.
My speakers systems works perfect my previous setup, when motherboard has nForce2 SoundStorm integrated chip.
Some other forums, peoples claims that this MSI k8n motherboard can't send multichannel 5.1 surround audio on SPDIF and I have to connect my speakers on motherboard analog sound outputs. -
hey i have this hardware
msi k8n sli-fi
amd Athlone 64 3200+
coursair value s 512 mb ram
Nvidia 7300 GS
my problem is that windows reboots in loop and sometims a bluescreen appears i think the problem is with nforce pci system management driver because i get a conflict in windows
I/O Range 4C00-4C3D not avalible
I/O Range 4C40-4C7F not avalible
do somone have a solution for this i will be gratefullHi i always had problems with corsair memory since they have to be configured manually to work most stable. What you can do to test memory problems is:
1. use only one module in first memory slot
2. set commandrate to 2T
see if that works. If it works fine then you have to reconfigure the memory modules in bios. -
Very, very low sound from MSI K8N SLI Platinum
The sound from my MSI K8N SLI Platinum nForce 4 is so low that i must set the volume control on max and the speakers on max to hear anything. I tried other speakers with the same result. The speakers are amplified.
What can i do?Well for a start you could search the forum as this problem is now well known. I'm not getting at you but I know how frustraing it is wanting someone to respond with an answer, and you don't have to wait if the problem has already been discussed!
The problem is that MSI decided to specify that the 24 pin supply must have -5v to support the creative chip. This is in contradiction to atx 2.2, and other PSU specs for 24pin supplys, which say the pin in question is NC (no connection).
What you need is a dual standard 20/24 pin supply.
Theres is a FAQ about this on the diamond forum, but I'm not sure if unregistered Platinum SLI users can read them anymore!
According to the FAQ MSI are promising US diamond users the chance to RMA their diamond boards when modified boards whcih don't require the -5v supply are availble. This isn't much use to us european Platinum SLI users.
I have a Tagan 480w which is dual standard 20/24 pin supply. -
Just about to install a Tagan 2force 480W PSU into an MSI K8N SLI-FI motherboard. This board requires 3 power connections, the 24pin ATX, 4 pin for CPU and there's a 4 pin molex (PCIE_PW1) connection for PCI-Express VGA cards.
From the Tagan website, I thought that this power supply had a blue 4pin connector to use for this PCIE_PW1 connection. It doesn't, it only has the two 6pin PCI-Express connections. Can I use one of the white molex power cables that would normally be used for drives?
This PSU also has a GND/RTN grounding cable. Do I put this under one of the screws fixing the motherboard to the case?
ThanksHello !
Yes, you can use the standart connectors for your VGA Cards, but it should be the only device attached to this power string. Do not use it in combination with other devices as power source for your card. I do not know exactly if your PSU has two 12V Power Rails, but if so, try to combine them to one 12V Rail. There should be a switch on your PSU to do that.
You can install the grounding cable to any place in the case, i would not put it under the motherboard, i suggest mounting it to a HDD cage.
Greetz -
Can someone please tell me if the AMD FX-60 CPU is compatible with the
MSI K8N SLI (MS-7185) version 1.0 motherboard?
If I upgraded to this processor would its performance be limited by
the speed of my memory. I have 2.5 Gb PC3200 Corsair RAM.
Many thanks!Quote
Yes I'm sure its back at 200MHz ie PC3200 but I don't know why the numbers are low. What else would you recommend that I use for benchmarking memory?
From the below statement I thought you meant you tried to run all 4 memory sticks at 200Mhz, I guess I misunderstood?
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However, I tried it with all four sticks and it also works in dual mode but only in 2T command rate. Although it went into 167 MHz memory frequency but I changed it to 200MHz to get PC3200 (400MHz).
Obviously from the sceenshot you have 2GB and 2 sticks and are at 1T, but what about 3GB. I thought you meant running all 4 sticks at 200Mhz from what you said. That is why I said the score is low. Sandra is pretty linear when it comes to the bandwidth test. If memory speed goes down from 200 to 167 that's about 17% reduction, add in 1-3% for 2T in Sandra, and you get very close to your 18% reduction in bandwidth for 3GB test. Since it sounded like you said you adjusted 3GB to 200Mhz then the score would be too low for the 3GB run, as it appears it is still 166 at 2T. If that's the case the score is pretty much right on the money.
BK's recommendations are good for other benchmarks, make sure to try real world apps though too.
Before you get into overclocking read some of the overclocking guide(like down in the overclocking modding section on the forum) -
MSI K8N SLI Mobo (with 24 bit SB Live!) and XP64, no driv
There are no drivers to be found anywhere for the onboard 24 bit SB Li've! chip on the MSI K8N SLI platinum motherboard. It's quite confusing really, seeing how it's a board designed for 64 bit processing yet there are no drivers for the Li've! chip. I'm assuming the drivers are in Beta development, is there a tentati've release date, even if it's November, it's better than not knowing anything. I love my 64 bit system but it really stinks having no sound.
Jan GonsalvesAs I stated in the original post, I am looking for 64 bit drivers for the Sound Blaster 24 bit Li've! chip that is onboard the MSI K8N SLI Platinum Motherboard. The "preview" drivers, as noted in the release notes:
(http://preview.creativelabs.com/Lists/Announcements/DispForm.aspx?ID=6&Source=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview%2Ec reativelabs%2Ecom%2Fdefault%2Easpx)
2. SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
One of the following supported audio cards:
Creative SoundBlaster Li've! (except Li've! 24-bit)
Creative SoundBlaster Audigy (except Audigy LS)
Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 (except Audigy 2 NX)
These do NOT support Li've! 24 bit. In fact, on the Discussion board at the preview website, a moderator wrote this:
(http://preview.creativelabs.com/Lists/General%20Discussion/DispForm.aspx?ID=344&Source=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview%2 Ecreativelabs%2Ecom%2FLists%2FGeneral%2520Discussi on%2FAllItems%2Easpx)
"It is not a site for asking for the Li've 24-bit/Audigy LS/NX drivers (32-bit or 64-bit). If you want those drivers, post at the official Creative forum or contact technical/customer support. That will get noticed. No one reads this site except for the people involved in the 64-bit driver preview for hardware listed in the release notes."
So, according to that email is says this list is responsible for producing 64 Bit drivers for the SB Li've! 24 bit chip. I would like to know which group is responsible for the drivers and when these drivers are TBA. Like I said, rough estimates are fine, I just want to know SOMEONE is working on it.
Jan
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