MSS HCM Forms and Processes - Not accessible

Hi all,
I was trying to enable all standard HCM forms and processes accessible in MSS. However, I could only see 'Transfer process' available while accessing using Manager user. I assigned SAP_ASR_MANAGER role to this user.
All forms are active and accesible from WDA application from SE80 using a developer ID. However the same is not listed in MSS> Is there any other prerequisite which i am missing.
Thanks
Karthik

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To archive above functionality we can use below simple method, if u r expectig same functionality through operations and custom event give me some time i need to recall some functioality(At present i am unable to acces MY SAP)
Let my BADI name is   Z_Positions .
Letu2019s define two attributes in my BADI like E_DATE and DD1.
For to understand better create one methods as same as input and out parameters of Get_Help_Values method.
So my methods is F4_Vac_Pos
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Once if we able to read the Effective date, cheek is initialize are not(value is there or not).
     If it is not initialize go ahead else return.
     If it is not initialize fill all vacant positions in DD1 based on by passing key as readied
                   Effective date.
Call this methods in get_help_values method.
From Configuration side:-
Created Effective_date and F4_DD1attributes.
Add your custom generic service to form (let assume service no is 200 ).
Go to the assignment of custom generic service; map the F4_DD1 form attributes to the BADI attribute DD1 and cheek default value and value help.
The same way map form Effective_date attribute to BADI E_date (donu2019t select value help option)
Now adobe java script:-
Write the below piece of code on click method of button
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Once the date is selected, click on the Button. As we know already for every round trip get_help_values method will call. Now it will call.
As already effective date value is mapped to one of the custom badi attribute, so we are able to read this value through service data set.
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Attachment Buttons not coming in Task TS17900101 of HCM Forms and Process

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We are using HCM Forms and process for changing employee organization unit which is linked with workflow for approvals.
In this workflow we are calling standard task TS17900101 .Till now every thing is working fine but the problem is with attachments as their is a requirement to show attachments button with this Approve and Reject Task. But as per my knowledge SAP has not given any option to attach documents with this task which is however only possibe through TS17900100.
So can u suggest any way to attach documents with Approve and Reject Task which is TS17900101.
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Rahul

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For HCM forms and processes certain standatrd task and workflow templates are provided.
Out of them of the tasks is TS17900100: Process Form. I suppose this task saves the infotypes in the backend system.
If we see the object method for this class in PFTC, it is CLASS:CL_HRASR00_WF_COMPONENTS & METHOD: WI_EXECUTION_VIA_R3_INBOX. But this method seems to be a dummy method. There is no ABAP code in this method.
Would you please let me know where is the actual code which is executed for this task.
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No, if I enter all the mandatory fields on the form then there is no problem. It allows me to move ahead and submit the form successfully.
As recommended by Siddharth, I tried debugging the message class and what I observed was it passes the complete_fieldname value as Personnel Subarea (I1008_BTRTL) and system expects it to be I1008-BTRTL.
SAP as a fallback tries to read description from the table T5ASRFSCNFLDT but it has a_form_scenario as blank and complete_fieldname has a concatenated value "Personnel Subarea (I1008_BTRTL)" instead of "I1008-BTRTL".
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Thanks for the reply Rick.
For normal workflows its fine. I would like to know for HCM forms and process will it allow or not?
HCM forms and process framework has come limitation's. Please check the below link.
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If you get the error ' H_SO , H_PO , H_PO' , then the relevant case types are not defined.
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I am setting up HCM form and Process and I am done with Setting up new scenario and form and workflow steps. When I do the check consistency for Processes I get these 4 error below and not sure what do i do about these error
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HCM Forms and processes - Effort estimation of the requirements !

Hi Experts on HCM F&P,
I have following queries on HCM forms and processes.
1.
I understand that HCM F&P is both functional and technical ( majority of the work being technical here). But where do we draw a line as to what part of work is a functional activity and what is technical activity. For technical I do understand the form desig, workflow development is all technical. But however i am not able to understand what is the part of work on HCM F&P is to be classified as functional.
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When we get new customer projects how do we go ahead estimating the timelines for Functional consultant and Technical consultant. Fairly clear for technical that the timelines for designing the form with all needed logic in custom generic service and for the workflow development. But unable to really understand that activity that needs to be classified as purely functional activity and the timelines needed for this role.
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1. First you need to clear with the process that you are going to carry out.
2. Understand the process and indentify the infotypes, fields that need to be updated.
3. Also the infotype operation deletion, modification, Insertion, etc.
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5. create generic service if necessary.
6. Create a adobe form.
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7. Workflow process to be defined from functional(first level approver, second level approver)
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Certain forms/process needs to be initiabed by only group of people,
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Edited by: srikanth chowdhary on Apr 28, 2010 6:17 AM

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Yes it is possible to make the process initiate for a group.This can be achieved via roles in the process.But in case if you are using custom roles then you need to include it in the process .So that it is exclusive for that role alone.
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We have developed a custom HCM Process with 2 level approval. Is there a way to get the status of the previous step onto the form. I mean the 2nd approver should be able to see whether the form is approved or rejected by 1st approver.
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You can get this from the table T5ASRSTEPS and field is PROC_STATUS. This table T5ASRSTEPS is linked to T5ASRPROCESSES and you need to use the PROCESS REFERENCE NUMBER for this.
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SAP HCM Forms and Processes

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CL_HRASR00_DT_OBJECT_KEY======CP
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Gita

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Workitems related to HCM forms and Process...

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Need you inputs on one of the requirment we have recevied.
We need to find out the list of Workitems (ONLY RELATED TO HCM PROCESS AND FORMS), pending for approval from manager and show them in POWL.
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Thanks,
Harish

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You can get the particular Approval task from workflow template.
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Error opening form(HCM Forms and Process) in ESS

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Im getting following error when im trying to open form from ESS.
The following error text was processed in the system IED : Web Dynpro application /PAASRFORMSTEP/EDITFORMAPP does not exist .
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This may sound to be a very simple problem but I am unable to get to the root of the issue and thus need an expert advise here.
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No, if I enter all the mandatory fields on the form then there is no problem. It allows me to move ahead and submit the form successfully.
As recommended by Siddharth, I tried debugging the message class and what I observed was it passes the complete_fieldname value as Personnel Subarea (I1008_BTRTL) and system expects it to be I1008-BTRTL.
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Regards,
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