[Multiple] Bootable Clone Advice?

Hi All.
I would like to use the fourth slot in my machine to create a bootable clone of my 1 TB Snow Leopard with Windows 7 via Parallels drive (and if possible the 1 TB drive that contains Windows 7 via Boot Camp and a hack).
Q1. Can I also add a bootable clone of my 150 GB MacBookPro to the drive that this resides upon (the 2 TB)?
Q2. Can I also add a bootable clone of my 1 TB Windows 7 Boot Camp drive? I mean can I have two or three bootable clones on one drive? There is nothing on this drive by way of files and getting Windows 7 on it involved a technical hack that I had to hire someone to execute.
Q3. The third drive contains just a Windows XP install via Boot Camp (which is easy to replicate). Could I run a bootable clone of the other two drives to it and not buy the 2 TB drive for the fourth slot?
I am thinking of buying a 2 TB drive for this bay and if I can get some advice as to whether this will work I can move forward with my other backup routines.
Will this work and does it make sense?
Thanks.

The only reason to have a system from a MacBook is to copy/recover some files.
Not to be kept internal.
Best place for backups is off line, rotate backup sets.
Only reason for internal is because using TimeMachine hourly and which has a high tendency to drop loose, sleep the connection to external devices on USB.
Sparse Disk Images even of 300GB are fine for storing an image for later restore to (another) hard drive.
Paragon is great for Windows only disk to disk OS clones that can be booted, but otherwise, type of thing people buy extra drive sleds for weekly clone. Or run the "Clone OS" feature to an external drive and then keep it disconnected.
I think you want to make it harder and more complex than needed.
Windows XP runs well enough under Mac as a guest OS (Fusion or Parallels or even VirtualBox), or run VM in Windows (with Windows running native).
VM only, no native Windows, can be placed on any drive of your choosing.
Keep the system and data on separate drives.

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