Software to create a bootable clone of win7 BC drive, running Lion

I'm running Lion on one internal drive and BC win7 on another internal drive. For a number of years I used OS X 10.6 and WinClone and never had a problem creating any of my bootable clones of the BC drive (knock on wood).
My current Lion install will not run WinClone. One solution is to create a new partition dedicated to 10.6, install WinClone and create bootable win7 BC clones from the 10.6 partition. I can do that but it seems a bit cumbersome if I'm only going to use the new 10.6 partition in order to use WinClone again.
Any software out there similar to WinClone that I can run under Lion?

How are your web searching skills?
I'd say this falls into the "not daily, but multiple times a week" category of questions.

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Thanks for any input,
Nigel

Disk Utility doesn't make for bootable images. However, the command-line utility 'hdiutil' does (use it via Terminal.app. I've made bootable Linux DVD images before that way, but never a bootable Mac image.
I'm guessing that a bootable Mac image would involve making a disk image file, copying the necessary system files, blessing the image (in Terminal.app, type 'man bless' for more info), and then converting it to a regular ISO image.
Similarly, I think that all you need to make a bootable USB key/drive is to partition it GPT, copy the system files, and bless it. That said, you can probably use the OS X install media to install the OS on the USB key (it certainly works for USB hard drives) directly. You could even do that, then take an image of the drive (using dd) and convert it to an ISO with hdiutil.

Using Disk Utility to create a bootable clone

After searching around, I find that the Disk Utility Restore function is the safest way to make a bootable clone. I've tried Carbon Copy Cloner, but had some minor problems.
However, DU Restore always renames the clone disk with the same name as the source disk. This leads to problems, such as confusing Time Machine as to where it should back up.
Is it okay to rename the bootable clone volume, or does it mess things up when you rename a volume after it has been created? Is there any way to preset a name when using DU Restore?

CCC does not cause data corruption and has been put through a lot of testing. Be sure to check for updates. You should have CCC 3.1.
If you have problems, I would suspect corrupt files and don't rely on Disk Utility First Aid to find or repair problems. When you need something stronger, buy Alsoft Disk Warrior.
DU Restore does work, better now in Leopard. People use to forget to turn off "Ignore Ownership" which is now handled properly.
And always repair permissions afterwards before using, no matter what you use.

Creating a bootable G5 backup on external drive

Can anyone help point me to instructions for creating a bootable backup for a G5 quad v.Tiger_10.4.11 using a LaCie d2 Quadra 500GB external with Firewire 800. I'll also be using this external drive to backup my files/apps daily.
Thanks for your help!

Along with BDAqua's excellent suggestions, there's also SuperDuper!. Like Carbon Copy Cloner, the free version of SuperDuper! will make a fully functioning clone of your source disk.
I use FireWire 800 enclosures purchased from OWC (Other World Computing) and they are bootable. This is the enclosure I bought. It's a bit cheaper to buy the enclosure alone and then pretty much any ATA drive you want to put in it elsewhere. Saved me about $40 a drive to assemble it myself. But they do sell the same enclosure with various size drives already installed if you want to one stop shop.

How to create a bootable clone?

So, I'm returning after a while in Mac-land, and there's one thing I'm missing that the Mac got very right. There were several apps that would easily clone your system onto a backup disk and make it bootable. It was the best backup system I ever had. If my disk died, I just rebooted onto the other one, and when I got the replacement, I used basically the same process to do the restore.
How can I accomplish this in Arch? The "dd the disk" method isn't going to work out to well, as I need support for disks of different sizes, partition layouts, and interfaces. Rsync seems promising, but there's a fair bit of work to do after the copy since things like FS UUIDs will be different.
The way this works on Mac is basically like this:
1. rsync the source to the destination, excluding a few things that are useless, as recommended by Apple.
2. Make the clone bootable. This is easy on Mac as boot code is never written outside the root FS, and doesn't even need to be installed into the FS header - all that has to happen is that the inode number of the boot code is written to a specific spot in the HFS+ header.
3. The Mac's firmware (either PPC OpenBoot or X86 EFI) will scan all attached disks for bootable filesystems and show a list for you to pick, when interrupted with the right key.
4. The root FS is always the boot FS, which eliminates the need for configuring the root FS in the boot code on fstab. It just mounts whatever it booted from as root. This neatly eliminates the need to post-edit these files after a clone
As I see it, the difficulty of automating this process in Linux really has a lot to do with the lameness of the PC BIOS.
I don't want to roll my own cloning code. Backups are too important to trust it to the kind of dirty hack I'd come up with. What can I use?

So, I feel I have to respond somehow to this, so as not to seem ungrateful for the nice responses, but none of these answer the question I actually have. I think the typical Arch-user's DIY attitude goes a bit too far, sometimes.
I know how to copy the files over, how to change the UUIDs, how to install GRUB, and how to create the 3 magic device nodes (null, console, and zero, for future reference). Just about any of these suggestions would be fine for a one-time or once-in-a-while process, but I want something that's painless enough to use as a daily backup routine. There's also the problem that they don't handle well the case where I don't want to take over the entire backup disk, and especially don't handle odd cases such as GPT disk format, where you shouldn't install boot code into the partition table area. They also aren't designed for the case where the backup device is an external disk which isn't intended to be remounted internally when disaster strikes, or the case of laptops where you don't want to have to remove /dev/sda from your machine to test.
Basically, it amazes me that apparently nobody has written software yet to automate what's probably a very common desire. Google didn't find anything of the sort, so I came here to ask actual human beings. (Yet another case where Google is not wrong )
Where I'm at now is to rsync everything and create the 3 device nodes, and then stop. This gets me to the 90% mark, is simple enough to be foolproof, and makes restoring the same as backing up. If there's no professional-feeling way to do the rest, I'll stop there.
None of this post is intended sarcastically, and please don't take offense at my laundry-list of complaints for the suggestions given. I think my posts could stand to be a little clearer if a paid sysadmin with 11 years of Linux background can gather responses that say things like "use cp" and "DONT USE THIS COMMAND UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING"

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i want to update my software version to 6.1.3.. but i have never updated this before and this is my first time.. im having 20 GB apps and music in my ipod. so when i click 'update and download' tab it starts downloading the new version and upgrading,... but afetr some time it says im having a very low memory in c drive and i would have to stop the upgrading...
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I would rather you delete/move other files to the external HD rather than downloading the update file to the external HD.
First try going here and delete any update files to regain C drive space.
IPSW file location for Mac and Windows
Also, make sure that you have emptied your computer's recycle bin
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How do I make a bootable clone (with Lion already installed on my Mac)?

Hi all, I'm hoping someone can help clarify with a step-by-step on this. Here's the deal: I have a 2008 MacBook Pro, which I updated from Snow Leopard to Lion via the App Store. I have decided to upgrade my internal hard drive (which I've done before) from a 500GB to 750GB, but after doing a couple hours of research, the whole Lion element is making me nervous.
I've been reading about the whole Lion Recovery partition, which won't be brought over with a simple cloning process (via SuperDuper! or the like) and I'm now thoroughly confused with how to do this the proper way. I don't know if I need to use the Recovery Disk Assistant app on the new 750GB hard drive, or on a separate (third) drive, or to make a bootable Lion install disk on either, or even if I do do these things, how this meshes on the new drive, and do I need to format the new drive with two partitions for the Recovery partition to be a part of it?... Oy.
I'd really be appreciative if someone with the know-how of this process could help with the steps. It doesn't need to be crazy thorough--as I said, I've at least replaced my drive before--but I'm not an expert by any stretch (as a point of reference: bring up Terminal and my eyes will roll back in my head). I just need to know what to do in what order, with at least a little detail. And if it means anything to you, I'm the type of guy who likes to know WHY I'm doing something, if possible... Thanks in advance for your time and help.
(I've already got the new 750GB drive in hand, an external enclosure and a separate 8GB+ drive, too.)

You can use 3rd party software such as Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper! to create a bootable clone on an external drive.
I use SuperDuper to create a clone. Yes, it's true the Recovery HD will need to be recreated after restoring a clone because neither of these softwares nor Time Machine backup that partition. It's really no big deal. You just reinstall Lion on top of itself after the restore and reapply any Software Updates including the 10.7.1 update. I've done this a few times with no issues.
The Lion Recovery Assistant app creates an external Recovery HD on like a USB thumb drive, but it creates this using the Recovery HD from your Lion install. If the Recovery HD is missing, the app will not create one for you.
EDITED:
Create your bootable clone on an external drive.
Create an external USB thumb drive with the Recovery HD using the Lion Recovery Assistant.
Swap out hard drives.
Boot from the USB Recovery HD thumb drive.
Use Disk Utilities to create a new partition (Macintosh HD), format it with the GUID partition table and Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
While in Disk Utilities, click your hard drive (not the new partition); then click the Restore button.
The Source of your restore is the external clone you created. The Destination is the newly created Macintosh HD partition.
Click the Restore button. The restore will take awhile depending on the size of the clone.
After the restore, boot your system and it should boot into Lion.
Reinstall Lion on top of itself to recreate the Recovery HD at the end of your Lion partition.
Reapply Software Updates including the 10.7.1 update (if you want it).
Hope this helps!

How to create a bootabale clone?

My Mac Book Air [MBA] has 128GB solid-state drive.
I have bought an Iomega External Portable Hard Drive Mac edition for the back up through Time Mechine and to create a bootable clone.
Can some one help me or direct me to a manual that will help me organise my steps in creating
Partitions on the Iomega eGo Portable Mac Edition 320GB Hard Drive so one partition could be reserved for Bootable Clone and the secon partition for the Time Mechine back up?
The Iomega Portable External HD comes with the following software: MozyHome, Iomega QuikProtect, EMC Retrospect, If those of any help in me creating Partitions.
I would very greatly appereciate your helpful guidance
Regards
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Hello Neil,
Thank you for that tip.
Do you feel I would need any special software to create a bootable clone on my external HD? OR is there a built-in facility in the Snow Leopard OS to create a bootyable clone to external HD?
Thank you in advance for a reply.
Regards

Free bootable clone on portable drive

I Currently have a potable drive that has time machine backups on it. After installing my new SSD, I now have my old HDD that I woul like to use as a bootable clone for obvious reasons. I know CCC shirt pocket etc. And the better ones that well known. My question is; is there a good one that is 100% Free. I will onmy have this worst case total failure so don't want to spend anything right now. Any comments or suggestions are appreciated

GeoA wrote:
Thanks for everyones input. I do appreciate it. I will give it a try.
Following are two con links I found - although they are not real current:
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/stdadp.php?pfaqid=1059
http://forums.bombich.com/viewtopic.php?t=11152
I certainly understand it. The spindown occurs after five minutes of inactivity and can be a pain if you come back to your machine and it take a while to restart.
If you're just using it as a backup, there should be no problem. The problem is that it's not going to be very good if you intend on regularly using the bootable external volume.
I've created a bootable clone from WD MyBook drives. They haven't created a problem and are solid clones. However - I don't regularly use the bootable clones. I only check them briefly to make sure they work, then shut them down.

Question about creating a bootable disk image in Leopard.

I have a Powerbook G4 that originally came with OS9, I upgraded to Tiger and recently upgraded to Leopard. The computer is running great but if it should go down what are my bootable options?
1) Boot from the install disk set then load tiger upgrade then load Leopard upgrade? then reload all my programs back on the G4?
2) Can I create a bootable disk image and save it on an external hard drive and then boot and reload everything at once? ( I guess by asking this question I really don't understand what the full scope of a bootable disk image is?) can someone explain...
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Your best alternative is to create a bootable clone on an external Firewire drive.
How to Clone Using Restore Option of Disk Utility
1. Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
2. Select the backup or destination volume from the left side list.
3. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (journaled, if available) and click on the Erase button. This step can be skipped if the destination has already been freshly erased.
4. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
5. Select the backup or destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
6. Select the startup or source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
7. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
Of course you can use other software for cloning and backup:
Backup Software Recommendations
My personal recommendations are (order is not significant):
1. Retrospect Desktop (Commercial - not yet universal binary)
2. Synchronize! Pro X (Commercial)
3. Synk (Backup, Standard, or Pro)
4. Deja Vu (Shareware)
5. PsynchX 2.1.1 and RsyncX 2.1 (Freeware)
6. Carbon Copy Cloner (Freeware - 3.0 is a Universal Binary)
7. SuperDuper! (Commercial)
8. Intego Personal Backup (Commercial)
9. Data Backup (Commercial)
For use with Leopard always be sure you use a version of the software that is compatible with Leopard.

How do you create a bootable back up of the hard drive w/ disk utility?

I think it's pretty incredible that the most basic of basic topics, how to create a back up of your hard drive using the native software Disc utility, is nowhwere to be found. I tried searching "create bootable back up" and amazingly enough nothing comes up. Anyway.... can anybody let me in on this top secret information, I would really appreciate it. Once again the objective is to make a bootable clone of my hard drive onto an external disk. Thanks for the help,
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    Are you saying I could still use Disk Utility's Restore function to clone a 90GB startup drive, that had 40GBs used, to a clean 60GB backup drive?
Correct. The size of the source drive is completely irrelevant – as Kappy is saying, it's just the size of the data to be copied that counts. (An explanation that some people like is that "empty space is not copied").
    I've always used a dedicated backup drive that was larger than my startup drive
Nothing 'wrong' with that, but unnecessary. Same size would be large enough for any future possibility. Theoretically, if you had a 250GB internal drive but knew that you would never have more than 20GB of data on it, a 40GB backup drive would be considerably more than sufficient (a bit of a silly example, but true). Other considerations: 1. you already know about the 15% free space recommendation, and 2. with drives, 'bigger' is nearly always a better investment for the future. I would always advise someone about to buy a drive to multiply the size they were thinking of by at least 4.
    always reformatted and zeroed it
Again not 'wrong', but overkill. A simple 'erase' (2 seconds) would suffice – erased is 'clean' enough. Consider that those, like myself, who do "synchronized" backups (copying only added or changed items for the saving of time) NEVER erase the target, or just once in a blue moon. If your backup drive is stationary on your desk the chances of it developing another bad block are close to nil. The time when a re-zeroing (mapping out of bad blocks) becomes imperative is immediately after the cat knocked the drive onto the floor! We are in the main talking here about a software solution (the mapping) of a hardware problem, physical imperfections on the surface of the disk.
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Regarding 'other stuff' on the backup/target drive, our suggestion for CCC users is:
[Note that this is NOT for the situation where the target is to be erased every time.]
    For your first cloning you should find a temporary home for that stuff on the external drive so that you can prepare the drive correctly [instructions…] After that you can move that 'other stuff' back onto the external drive.
    If you absolutely cannot find the needed 'temporary home' you can proceed anyway but you must take responsibilty for any consequences due to inadequate preparation of the drive (e.g. not 'zeroing' it to map out any bad blocks) – you should be OK but it is a question of luck. For subsequent clones, and for this first one if you wish to proceed, you do not need to move that 'other stuff' if you do as follows…
    You have to ensure that the clone will not interfere with that other stuff. Put all that 'other stuff' into a folder (with sub-folders as you desire) on the target (at root level, i.e. what you see when you dbl-click on the disk icon) and give that folder a unique name, i.e. a name which you know you will never use on your source drive. If you did have such a folder on the source the cloning would make the folder on the source overwrite the one on the clone, so choose the name with some thought. (How about: "Nevercall_methis"? ;=))
A dedicated backup drive is, beyond doubt, to be highly recommended as the best arrangement. 'Other stuff' on that drive is possible, easily 'do-able', but is often the cause of complications at some stage. (Buy another drive! ;=)).
"Buy another drive" is not just me being facetious. If you data is vital to you, you should have TWO backups on different drives. Consider this: while you are cloning/backing up, you actually have NO backup – a power outage and all, source and backup, could be lost at the same time – unlikely but not impossible. I do hate to be a harbinger of gloom, but…
Happy cloning! ;=)
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Bootable clone just not bootable!

Hi all,
I want to upgrade to Leopard from Tiger and am desperately trying to create a bootable clone of my machine in case it goes awry.
I've used SuperDuper, CCC and Disk Utility Restore but nothing has worked. When I use SuperDuper and I hold down the option key at startup I'm presented with the new clone I've made but when I try to boot from it the apple logo turns into a "No entry" symbol and the hard drive stops whirring and spinning.
When I use CCC and hold down option I'm not presented with the drive at startup and it doesn't show up when I use Disk Utility restore.
I'm thinking that this must be a hard drive issue - I'm using a Toshiba storE 1TB which has been partitioned using Mac OS Journaled GUID. It's a USB drive but I thought that was ok for bootable clones on Intel Macs.
Any help with this would be really appreciated because I'm losing the will to live with creating new clones every time one doesn't work.
Cheers
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If your cloning tool is reporting the drive as bootable then I think all the files are on there correctly, so it isn't software as such. That leaves hardware.
I must admit, that seems to be a somewhat obscure drive given the problems I am having finding out anything about it online. I was trying to see if anybody else reports boot problems, but I can hardly find any references to that drive. I wonder if it really is a LaCie in disguise as BDaqua suggests, and as does [http://forums.computers.toshiba-europe.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=193632 ] (LaCie's of that type are known for power supply failures). This does not explain why it doesn't boot since if it is the LaCie I have a 250GB model of that type that boots my G4 without problem (but then it isn't identical to your 1TB).
Given the problems that you are having, and that others are reporting (especially if it is the LaCie problem drive) my inclination would be to return it.

Creating a bootable backup - instructions?

I am looking to create a bootable back-up of my MBP so I can expirament with going from 10.4.6 to 10.4.10. (I am wary due to the processor whine issue.) I would like to be able to go back to 4.6 if I can't quiet the whine under 4.10.
Can anyone guide me to a step by step guide on how to do this? I plan to get an OWC Firewire drive.
Thanks!
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When you get the OWC drive - good choice - connect it to your computer and make sure that you use disk utility to partition the drive using GUID - it's in options under the partition tab.
Download SuperDuper. This is free for making a clone of your hard drive, twenty something if you want incremental backups (faster). For your purpose, free is fine.
http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html
As long as your hd is partitioned using GUID (format Apple OS Extended (journaled) Super Duper will create a bootable clone.
Best of luck.

How long do I need to keep my bootable clone?

I successfully upgraded my OS from Tiger to Snow Leopard almost a year ago. I had created a bootable clone as backup, which is stored on my external hard drive. I am running out of room on my external HD so I am wondering if it is OK to delete the bootable clone of my Tiger OS to make more space. I've run Snow Leopard for almost a year without any problems. I'd appreciate any advice. Thank you!

Any bootable clone needs to be kept until you have a more recent backup that you can rely on. Since it's been so long for the one you're talking about, I sure hope you've got a more recent backup by now...
jbresnic wrote:
Great I will do that. One questions - does my Time Machine backup count as a bootable clone? Thanks!
You can't boot a Time Machine clone, but you can easily reconstruct a bootable clone from it if you have a little more time. By inserting your OS X system disc and telling it to restore from Time Machine backup, it will reassemble one drive that is bootable from whichever Time Machine state you choose. I've done it, and it works, but I still maintain both a Time Machine backup and a bootable clone.

How do you create a bootable image accessable via OPTION at boot time...

Hello. Is there a way to create a 'bootable image' of a hard drive and save on my raid and access it via the OPTION menu (hold option key at boot)? I would like to create a OSX bootable drive and then save the whole thing in a file. That way I can set up different configs and just boot into whichever I wish to use. Say, one to rescue a crashed hard drive, etc.
Information appreciated. Thank you,
--Scott
Powermac G5 'Quad' Mac OS X (10.4.6)

CCC is used to make a bootable clone. It will also make an image file that can be installed using ASR or that can be used with NetBoot. It does not make a bootable image because you cannot boot from a disk image file. The image file can also be burned onto a CD or DVD, but you will not be able to boot from it because a CD/DVD is not a writeable device, and OS X must be able to write to a startup device.
Another utility, BootCD (not yet usable with Tiger), worked around the problem by rewriting some of the startup code in OS X to force the making of a RAM disk, then moving some of the startup files to the RAM disk and designating the RAM disk as the startup device. Although BootCD will make a bootable and customizable CD using Panther, it does not work with Tiger.
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