Need info on Cash discounts

Hello,
I need some info on cash discounts.
I understand that cash discounts are applicable to the customer after he makes the payment. We issue credit memo.
But i dont understand the link b/n cash dicount conditon type (say SKTO/SKTV and payment terms )
How the cash discounts are linked to payment terms?
Whats the setting done for this?
Could some one answer this?
Regards,
Krishna

Cash discount means the rate of cash discount.
Where do you find the details of how much cash discount to be given to the customer ?
It is stored in the "Payment Term".
Any organisation has got its Payment Term or Terms of Payment for the business.
For example,suppose to-day you have purchased some goods from me and I have a payment term in my organisation like below,
If you are paying me within 7 days,then you are eligible for 5% cash discount.
If you are paying me within 15 days, then you will get 2% cash discount.After this no cash discount and 30 days is the maximum credit days and within 30 days if you are not paying me , then I will charge suppose 20% interest on the amount from the 31st day onwards.
System gets this information regarding the Cash discount, from this Payment Term.
For Cash discount , there is a special condition type "SKTO". This is a statistical condition type. Condition type SKTO retrieves the cash discount rate to be given, from the Payment Term.
Condition type SKTO does not have any access sequence and its finds out the cash discount rate from the payment in the Table "T052" (in this table all cash discounts are stored).
To find this cash discount rate SKTO uses its condition category "E".

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