Cash Discount taken after overdue

Hi,
I am a supplier to an SAP customer.
Our Terms are 2% net 31, from receipt of the product.
They 'always' take the 2% discount, though often they write the check in 32-35 days (the weekends are not the reason for the delay, as they receive usually on Thur-Fri and cut checks on Wed or Thursdays)
My question is, I 'presume' SAP has a configuration option on their system to
1) -- only take the 2% discount when they cut the check within 30 days of 'receipt' of the product into their warehouse. (they use SAP for GL, AP, Inventory, etc - so all information needed to make the correct payment is stored in SAP)
2) -- if the check is cut 'after' 30 days, the SAP system should pay the full amount.
Is my understanding correct on how the SAP system should be able to process? They are a Unix based 'very large' customer, and are on a somewhat recent supported code level.
Can anyone advise me where this type of configuration is done in the SAP system?
Can this configuration be set at a 'global' level for all customers?
Can this configuration be set at a 'local' level for specific customers?
Thanks in advance for any ideas.
SAP Newbis

Dear SAP newbie,
herefollowing as the Discount functionality works:
FBZP   > Max cash discount ACTIVATED, during F110 the maximum cash
discount will always be done even if the due date is expired.
OBB8   > Term of payment   Term      Percentage   No. of days
                           1.        10,000 %      30
                           2.           0,00 %      60 !!!!!
                           3.
!!!!!this is important, if You don't insert the number of days of 60
linked to a blank percentage, the System will take always the 10,000%
even if the due date is expired
If You define by OBB8   >
Term of payment   Term      Percentage   No. of days
                  1.        10,000 %      30
                  2.
                  3.
the System teoretically should take the 10,000 of cash discount but if
during the invoice You insert manually the discount amount (technical
field BSEG-WSKTO), the system will take this amount instead 10,000 %.
I hope this can help You.
Mauri
Edited by: MAURIZIO BIANCOTTI on Mar 2, 2011 5:48 PM
Edited by: MAURIZIO BIANCOTTI on Mar 2, 2011 5:49 PM

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SAP Note 48384 - Cash discount is taken although item overdue
Note Language: English Version: 4 Validity: Valid Since 20.02.1997
Summary
Symptom
Vendor invoice is paid with cash discount by the payment program
although the cash discount period has expired, the "Always max. cash
discount" flag in configuration Payment program is not set and no cash
discount agreement is noted in the document either.
Additional key words
F110, payment run
Cause and prerequisites
If in the terms of payment only, for example, 10 days 3 % and nothing else has been defined (further fields are not filled at all), the payment program has no instructions as to how the payment is to be made if the first cash discount period has expired. Nevertheless, the payment is made with cash discount terms 1 under these circumstances.
Solution
Choose other terms of payment.
Header Data
Release Status: Released for Customer
Released on: 19.02.1997 23:00:00
Master Language: German
Priority: Correction with medium priority
Category: Consulting
Primary Component FI-AP Accounts Payable
The Note is release-independent

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