New HTML editor?

Just wanted to find out how others are using/not using the
new HTML editor in RH7.
Our HTML files are valid, coded HTML, and what the RH editor
does to them is, well, a bit scary. Changing tags, removing
information, removing comments and formatting/line breaks that take
the once well-coded HTML and make a jumble out of them.
So far, we've just been using an external editor to edit the
files, and just used RH to generate the files. RH has had issues
with some XML code in our files for awhile so the editor has always
been problematic (stripping out the XML code) but rather than an
improvement, it seems like the new version is just worse.
Am I missing something?

quote:
Originally posted by:
Peter GraingeWhat annoying popups are bothering you?
Sorry it took so long for me to reply--I forgot
about the topic and my point was rhetorical anyway.
Anyhoo, since you ask: Say I need to add a class to a
paragraph tag (say, change <p> to <p class=caption>).
When I press the spacebar after the p to start typing, a
pop-up appears giving me a list of various HTML tags.
Example:
quote:
<h5> ... </h5>
<h6> ... </h6>
<head> ... </head>
<html> ... </html>
...and so on. Why? What does the list mean? Things I
could add? What are they supposed to help me do? Isn't not
as a shortcut to typing because if I double-click one of the listed
items it merely inserts the code and doesn't replace the code
that's already there so I'd end up with
<p<h5></h5>> and end up having to spend time
correcting that mess.
The pop-up very nearly obscures what I'm typing and so I have
to click elsewhere to get the pop-up to go away. And it happens
every time.
It's a poke in the eye. I thought the HTML editor would be
more convenient, but now? I prefer using Notepad by an order of
magnitude. (And it's moot anyway since the HTML editor is broken--a
problem
I
described awhile back resurfaced and we're out of ideas on how
to fix it.)

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