NEW to TIME MACHINE - if files deleted, will it be missing in the hard disk
i probably know that this is a silly question but here goes:
i've backup my hard drive into my external hard disk using a time machine.
if, i deleted the files in my mac. will it be missing in the hard disk too?
because, i am already low on space and would really want to delete my important files that already backed-up.
thanks!
fsug2 wrote:
i've backup my hard drive into my external hard disk using a time machine.
if, i deleted the files in my mac. will it be missing in the hard disk too?
YES! Not immediately, but sooner or later, Time Machine will delete it's copies of things that are no longer on your system. See #20 in [Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions|http://web.me.com/pondini/Time_Machine/FAQ.html] (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum).
Depending on the circumstances, the copies may be deleted in as little as 24 hours.
because, i am already low on space and would really want to delete my important files that already backed-up.
Backups, especially Time Machine backups, and extra space are two very different things.
Your best bet is to get a larger HD for your Mac, so you can keep all the originals there.
Second best is a another external HD; copy some things to it and delete them from your Mac, and let Time Machine back up both your internal and the new external.
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Message was edited by: Dan D\'ErricoDan D'Errico wrote:
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