NI 6711 pulse train generator

What is the maximum frequency that I should be able to generate a continuous pulse train using the 6711? I am playing around with it, and I can get to 5Mhz. The specs say that it should be able to run up to 20Mhz.
I am simply using the pulse train generator examples included in labview. Is there a better way to do this to reach closer to 20Mhz?
Thanks again,
-EVan

Evan;
You will never reach 20MHz through a pulse train generation. The maximum Time Base of the counter is 20MHz, that means, since you need, due to hardware features, two timebase pulses on the pulse train delay and two more on the pulse train width, the maximum frequency that can be generated by the counter, when operating as pulse train generation mode is 5MHz.
Regards
Filipe A.
Applications Engineer
National Instruments

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How do you set amplitude of pulse train?

I have successfully downloaded and executed the sample program shown here:
http://www.ni.com/white-paper/2991/en
and see the pulse train generate in my oscilloscope. When measuring the value of a pulse high, the oscilloscope says 5V.
How do I change it to 3?
Looking at the DAQ Create Channel node I don't see any inputs for amplitude, only frequency and duty cycle.
Where is the amplitude of 5volts being set and how can I change it to 3V?
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Hi Nathand, and Ricky -
Do you guys think this website:
https://decibel.ni.com/content/docs/DOC-3545
Could help me? I noticed there is a minimum and maximum value passed in to the Analog Output function.
I could set the minimum = 0V and maximum = 3V.
I will also look into the level shifter and transistor ideas.

PCI 6602:How can I use the digital lines of the board and in the same time to generate pulse train using a counter?

Hello!
My problem appeared when I tried to update my code from Traditional NI-DAQ Legacy to DAQmx.
I am using 2 counters (counter 5 and counter 7) from PCI-6602, to generate pulse train, and also the Digital I/O lines of the port 0 (the lines form 0 to 7). What I do in my application is that I am starting to generate the pulse train on the output of the 2 counters, and after that I am playing with the state of the digital lines.
In traditional there was no problem using the counters and the digital lines in the same time, everything was going perfectly, but in DAQmx this is not possible.
What happens: I start to generate pulse train on the output of the counters, no errors encountered, but when I try to modify the state of one line of the digital port the generation of the pulse train is stopped. This is happening when I start the task associated to the digital port.
My question is: it is possible to create a channel on the digital lines without altered the channels created for the counters?
Another thing what I manage to see using the "Measurement & Automation Explorer" and Test panels for PCI-6602, basically is the same thing, I generate pulse train on the output of the counter 7 and try to start a task on the digital line, but I get one error :
"Error -200022 occurred at Test Panel
Possible Reason(s):
Measurements: Resource requested by this task has already been reserved by a different task.
Device: Dev4
Terminal: PFI8"
Instead if I use the counter 0 or counter 1 to generate pulse train I don't encounter the same problem.
Which resources are used by the counters 2 to 7 from the PCI-6602 board and the counters 0 and 1 do not use?
Thank in advance for any replies!
Ciprian
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Hello Jordan, thank you for your reply.
I am sorry but I can not see or run your example, I don't use LabView, I use Visual C++ for developing.
Here is the code for generating the pulse train:
GeneratePulseTrain(unsigned long ulCount1, unsigned long ulCount2)
    short nStatus = 0;
    nStatus = DAQmxCreateTask("",&m_taskHandle);
    nStatus = DAQmxCreateCOPulseChanTicks (m_taskHandle, "Dev4/count5", "", NULL, DAQmx_Val_Low, 0.0, ulCount1,ulCount2);
    if( bTriggerMode == true) // if hardware trigger is enabled
       nStatus = DAQmxSetTrigAttribute (m_taskHandle, DAQmx_ArmStartTrig_Type, DAQmx_Val_DigEdge);
       nStatus = DAQmxSetTrigAttribute (m_taskHandle, DAQmx_DigEdge_ArmStartTrig_Edge, DAQmx_Val_Rising);
       nStatus = DAQmxSetTrigAttribute (m_taskHandle, DAQmx_DigEdge_ArmStartTrig_Src,"Dev4/PFI17" );
   //set the internal timebase
   nStatus = DAQmxSetCOCtrTimebaseSrc(m_taskHandle,"Dev4/count5","20MHzTimeBase" );
   nStatus = DAQmxStartTask(m_taskHandle);
    return nStatus;
And the code where I try to set the digital line:
SetChannelState(short nState)
    short nStatus = 0;
    uInt8 wrtBuf0[1]={0};
    nStatus = DAQmxCreateTask("",&m_taskHandle);
    // Configure line as output
    nStatus = DAQmxCreateDOChan (m_taskHandle, "Dev4/port0/line0", "", DAQmx_Val_ChanPerLine);
nStatus = DAQmxStartTask(m_taskHandle);
    wrtBuf0[0] = nState;
    nStatus =DAQmxWriteDigitalLines (m_taskHandle, 1, 0, 0, DAQmx_Val_GroupByScanNumber , wrtBuf0, NULL, NULL);
    nStatus = DAQmxWaitUntilTaskDone(m_taskHandle,10);
    nStatus = DAQmxStopTask(m_taskHandle);
    nStatus = DAQmxClearTask(m_taskHandle);
    m_taskHandle = 0;
    return nStatus;

Can I generate pulse trains on more than one counter output at the same time?

I have a PCI 6601 card with a BNC 2121 to connect the signals to two devices. The card is used as a trigger for both devices and I want to be able to generate pulse trains on two output channels at the same time, with a time delay between the two. How do I do that in Labview 7.1 Development with DAQmx?

I feel foolish for not being able to figure this out, but it still doesn't work. Attached is the VI I use now. Counter 0 generates a finite pulse train and I programmed Counter 1 to generate a retriggerable single pulse triggered by CtrOinternaloutput. I still get the same error message: -50103 The specified resource is reserved. The operation could not be completed as specified.
The same happens if I set the trigger for counter 1 at PFI36 (default output of counter 0) or any other PFI line. If I try a pulse train generation on only one of the counters, both work fine.
If I try the example in traditional DAQ for multiple counter outputs with phase delay, it works fine.
Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Attachments:
Shutter_AND_lamp_trigger.vi ‏103 KB

How to continuously generate a pulse train with variable frequency

Dear all,
I am trying to use NI-USB 6259(BNC) to send Pulse signals to conduct position control of a servo motor with labview. The position control of servo motor follows these rules:
The number of the pulse train determines how many degrees the motor rotate ;( e.g. the angular position of motor)
The frequency of pulses determines how fast the motor rotate; (e.g. the speed of motor rotating)
The digital determines the direction of rotation of motor (e.g. clockwise or counterclockwise)
My question comes when I need to continuously generate a finite plus train signal in a period of time. Below is a sample:
Time(s)
Number of pulses
Direction of rotation
(1 is clockwise, 0 is counterclockwise)
Frequency
0-1
923
1
923hz
1-2
3540
0
3540hz
2-3
1751
1
1751hz
3-4
2663
0
2663hz
4-5
353
0
353hz
5-6
1017
1
1017hz
6-7
3436
1
3436hz
7-8
302
0
302hz
8-9
1513
1
1513hz
9-10
570
1
570hz
Here is the explanation of this table, the motor keeps rotating in clockwise direction during 0~1s. When the time reaches 1s, the motor just complete the rotation of 923 pulse signals. And then the motor starts to rotate in counterclockwise direction during 1s~2s. When the time reaches 2s, the motor just complete the rotation of 3540 pulse signals. So we can see that the rotating speed of motor in 0~1s is different from the speed in 1s~2s. Namely, the frequency of pulse signal in 0~1s is different from the frequency in 1s~2s.
I have already use the counter output of DAQmx, it just can generate pulse signal with certain numbers and certain frequency in one time. The attachment is the vi which can generate a finite digital pulse train from a counter output channel and the frequency, duty cycle, Initial delay, and Idle state are all configurable.
How can I continuously generate a series of pulse train with varying numbers and frequencies during a certain period of time.
Thank you very much for your help!
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Counter - Finite Output.vi ‏57 KB
Finite output.png ‏13 KB

Hi aacuna,
Thank you for your reply!
I already checked that article. The frequency in that Vi can change dynamically, but the method of adjusting the frequency is ‘manual’ .Below is the front panel of that Vi. When the Vi is running we can change the frequency by press the button.
Time(s)
Frequency
0-1
923hz
1-2
3540hz
2-3
1751hz
3-4
2663hz
4-5
353hz
5-6
1017hz
6-7
3436hz
7-8
302hz
8-9
1513hz
9-10
570hz
Thank you！

HOW TO GENERATE FINITE AND CONTINUOUS PULSE TRAIN WITH USB6216 AT THE SAME TIME?

Hello.
I am using a USB6216 DAQ and need to generate a 20 kHz signal using the
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Hello.
If anybody is interested, the problem is solved.
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Generating a pulse train

Hello everyone,
I'm using one counter timer from the DAQ card PCI-6014. I want to generate a pulse train with this output where I can control the number of pulses and the frequency of the pulse. The duty cycle is not important, I want to use the default value, i.e. 50%.
I have used the vi called "train_impulsion2.vi" with the following values:
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I'm able to observed what I want, i.e. 10 changes from 5 V to 0 V on the oscilloscope.
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train_impulsion2.vi ‏21 KB
daq_assitant_pulse_train.vi ‏101 KB

Hello everyone,
Everything is now ok. I didn't put the correct leads inside the oscilloscope. That's why I wasn't measuring any rising or falling edges. Doh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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How to generate sequence of pulse trains with DAQmx?

I need to generate a sequence of pulse trains with DAQmx (the card I have is a PXI-6229 card). As an example:
- 10'000 pulses at 20kHz every 5 seconds with an initial offset of 2 seconds (let's say 10 pulse trains in total).
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Now I thought that I could solve this problem if it were possible to multiply two counter outputs: the first counter would generate the pulses (continuously) whereas the second one would switch between low and high on a slower timescale in order to gate the first counter, thereby providing an initial offset and the "off" phases between the pulse trains.
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Hi dlanger,
what you want to do requires a little bit more work.
First look at the example "Gen Dig Pulse Train-Continuous.vi" from the LV example finder.
This example generates a continuous* pulse train. As you see, you need a sample clock VI for setting the sample mode.
* NOTE: Generating a finite pulse train with a M-series card requires 2 counter.
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Maybe you have to adjust the times in my example a bit.
Unfortunately there is just one "small" problem: "let's say 10 pulse trains in total"
This is not possible, because a 3rd counter would be necessary (*).
As a workaround you can modify the while-loop that both tasks are cleared after 50s. This is not brilliant, but should work fine for you.
A more sophisticated way is to perform a correlated DIO. So you can generate custom pattern for multiple outputs.
A good example can you find here:
Retrigger and Repeat Finite Digital Pulse Train in LabVIEW
http://decibel.ni.com/content/docs/DOC-8473
or here:
Generating More Than 2 Pulse Trains Using CompactDAQ
http://decibel.ni.com/content/docs/DOC-2167
Hope this helps.
With best wishes,
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Attachments:
Gen Gated Dig Pulse Train-Continuous.vi ‏38 KB

How to generate a bipolar pulse train in LabView using USB DAQ 6211?

Hi,
I am setting up a system to generate either a single square pulse or a train of square pulses using LabView, with controls to adjust the frequency, amplitude, number of pulses etc. I have had a lot of help from NI tech support setting up the actual VI itself which seems to be working fine, and outputting the pulses via a USB DAQ 6211 using a square waveform generator and the AO1 channel on the DAQ.
The problem that I now have is that I need to pulses generated in a train to be bipolar (as they are connected to electrodes so need to be bipolar o avoid salt build up on the electrodes from the voltage going in one direction only, at least that is how I understand it!).
How can I set up my LabView VI to generate a bipolar pulse train instead of always being positive voltage? I am new to this area and so am trying to learn but there is so much to learn!
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Hi Shalini,
Apologies for taking a while to get back to you, I hope I can explain what it is that we need to create with the pulses. I understand what you mean about the existing pulses having a positive and negative on the graph - but we need the pulses to start from a resting voltage and the first pulse to be positive, then back to zero, then the second pulse to be negative then back to zero etc. This is to do with reversing the direction of the current between two electrodes to prevent build up of salts on one electrod from the current always passing in the same direction.
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How to generate a pulse train with different pulse width and delay?

How to generate a triggered pulse train with different pulse width. for example, after each trigger signal, let's say 2 ms, then the counter output a pulse with pulsewidth of 1 ms, and then after 3 ms delay after the first pulse, the second pulse was generated with a pulse width of 4 ms. Next cycle when the trigger signal comes, the same two pulses will be generated and so on. Is it possible to achieve this by using 6601 counter card? and if yes, how to achieve this? Thanks!

Unfortunately you can not create a hardware timed pulse train with different widths on each pulse from a counter. Whilst it can be changed on the fly using software, since you require a hardware triggered signal getting the software involved will not give a huge amount of accuracy when the pulse will actually change.
So in short you can't use your 6601 card (or a counter timer) to achieve this
There are three possible Alternative solutions
1 You could use a high speed digital IO device such as the (6533/34) to generate your variable signal which would require setting up the pulse train as a series of states based around the burst transmission mode where the clock would give you your specific timing.
2 A timed analogy output (for example on a MIO card with a clock (PCI-6220 / 62xx), i.e. Not the 6704 style static analogy output cards)
3 A high speed digital waveform card such as the (, 656x , 655x, 654x, 6534, 6533 (http://www.ni.com/modularinstruments/find_right.htm) ) this could then be scripted to work with your triggering and also there is a digital waveform editor which will enable you to set up the pattern you wish to generate (http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/13555)
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NI (UK)

Generate a pulse train using a count from a quadrature encoder as the clock

I am trying to generate a pulse train with the same frequency as my quadrature encoder. Every time the encoder counts, I want the pulse to go high until the next count and then go low and so on. I am using a 6602 PCI card and a BNC 2121 accessory.

Maybe I'm not understanding your app, but I *think* you and I are approaching it from two very different directions.
As I understand it, you'd like to emit a pulse with each quad state change. Then that pulse would act as a counter Source signal. The counter will then increment on each pulse, to keep track of accumulated position. Further, you'd use your device-under-test (DUT) as a counter Gate signal, which would buffer the position count each time there's a rising edge on your DUT. The end result is a buffer of position values, captured at each rising edge of your DUT.
I'm talking about a different approach to produce the same data. You'd use 2 tasks on a M-series board. One of them is a hardware-timed digital input task based on "change detection." Each time one of the specified bits has a transition, your whole set of digital input bits can be captured and an internal "change detect pulse" is generated on the board. This task should be sensitive to the DUT edges.
The other task would be a buffered position measurement. It would receive the reference encoder inputs and internally do quad decode and keep a running count. The sampling clock for this task would be specified as the other task's "change detect pulse."
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Gotta go for now. Post back if any further questions.
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How can we generate a pulse train with variable inster pulse delays?

I want to generate a pulse train with random inter pulse delays (100us-10000us) and the pulse width would be 50-100us. I programmed for single pulse generation using counter cfg,a for loop contaning set attribute parameters pulse spec 1 and pulse spec 2. I changed the pulse spec 1 value in every cycle
This program is generating the pulses but not the exact values in the sense the some times the delays are more than 10 msec. As per the program the delay should be maximum 10 msec. please help me ASAP.
thanks
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Hey Thota,
I would suggest to take a look at the example program linked below. It shows how to change pulse specs on the fly. You have to be make sure you are ignoring a certain error when doing this.
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http://sine.ni.com/apps/we/niepd_web_display.display_epd4?p_guid=B45EACE3E21756A4E034080020E74861&p_node=DZ52328&p_source=External
I hope this helps.
Regards,
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On E series Card with 2 counters I want to generate a fixed length pulse train and want to continuously monitor it.

On E series Card with 2 counters I want to generate a fixed length pulse train and want to continuously monitor it.

Depending on the software you are using, there are many shipping examples and example programs on the web that illustrate generating a finite pulse train. The E series boards have the DAQ-STC counter/timer chip, and so make sure you search for DAQ-STC examples. I have included links to a LabVIEW example and Measurment Studio Example in Visual Basic.
Generate finite pulse train in LabVIEW.
http://eagle.ni.com/stage/we/niepd_web_display.DISPLAY_EPD4?p_guid=B45EACE3DA2156A4E034080020E74861&p_node=DZ52328&p_submitted=N&p_rank=&p_answer=&p_source=Internal
Generate finite pulse train in Visual Basic with Measurement Studio
http://eagle.ni.com/stage/we/niepd_web_display.DISPLAY_EPD4?p_guid=B45EACE3D96156A4E034080020E74861&p_node=DZ52328&p_submitted=N&p_rank=&p_answe
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Generate a pulse train

How do I generate finite pulse train of 3 pulses of 25us pulse width, pulse period (1/(7000Hz)), and retrigger the same finite pulse train every 588.23us with the PCI-6602?
What are the externals connections?
What is the right Labview programming?

this can be done with the 6602 using multiple counters, but this board has 8 so you will still have many left over for other tasks.
You will need essentially 2 tasks, one taks is a retrigerable gated finite pulse train and the other is a simple finite pulse train.
I have done something similar using DaqMX and LV 7.0
To create the finite pulse train, create a CO.PulseTime task, create a channel setting the high times and low times (25 microseconds)and set the low polarity. I will assume that such a pulse train is going to trigger some external event or other DAQ card. Next set the timing to be implicit and sample mode to be finite and the number of pulses to be 3. To handle the retriggering and gate properities use a channel properitiy node and select:
StartTrigType = Digital Edge;
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Start.DigEdge.Src = PFI number of the out from the continious pulse train.
This last option will allow you to route the trigger from the controlling pulse trian to trigger your finite pulde train.
Now set up a second task to put out a continious pulse train with the period equal to the total durration between finite pulse trains (~500microseconds I dont have the exact number in front of me).
After creating these two tasks, start the retriggerable task first.
now when you start the continious pulse train you will get a finite pulse train of 3 pulses every time the rising edge of the continious pulse train fires. Stop and start the continious pulse train using software at will but only stop the finite task when you are done. Hope this helps.
-Paul
Paul Falkenstein
Coleman Technologies Inc.
CLA, CPI, AIA-Vision
Labview 4.0- 2013, RT, Vision, FPGA

How can I generate synchronized pulse trains with 6602?

Hi,
I would like to generate multiple pulse trains with different frequencies with the 6602 TIO card. Currently I am able to generate pulse trains with different frequencies. But is there any way to synchronize all the pulse trains? For example, I'd like to have all pulse trains with their first low-to-high at the same moment.
Thanks!
Dan

Dan,
Absolutely, the NI-TIO chip on the PCI-6602 supports a start trigger. If you configure all of the counters that are generating a pulse train to use this start trigger, they will be synchronized. The example Generate Pulse Train - Start Trig (NI-TIO).vi demonstrates this process for one counter. In LabVIEW 7, this example can be found in the following location:
Examples >> Hardware Input and Output >> Traditional DAQ >> Counters >> NI-TIO
You will need to add code for the other counters, but this example should give you the general idea. Furthermore, this example demonstrates how you can use one of the digital lines to generate the start trigger.
Good luck with your application.
Spencer S.

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