Nokia Belle - EAP-PEAP authentication without Cert...

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Its time for my half yearly bickering about the still non-support for EAP-PEAP authentication without server Certificates on Symbian Phone.
Here is my last thread begging for help from Nokia when Anna was released.
/t5/Software-Updates/EAP-PEAP-Authentication-without-Certificate-Is-it-fixed-in/td-p/1072133
My question remain the same.Does the new Nokia Belle support EAP-PEAP authentication without the requirement that a server certificate be present.
I have been living a life of ridicule and becomes an object of jokes and punchlines in office when it comes to the Phone that I carry. Lot of people now don't even know that there is company called Nokia. And when I tell them about it that say "Are you the guy carrying the phone that does not connect to our corporate network?".
If you read that earlier thread you know that none of the exotic workaround that some have been able to do, does not work with my office as our network administration has not installed any server certificate whatsoever on the access point.
I am fed of hearing from Nokia techs that this is supposed to be the secure and right way of doing things. When every other device, every smartphone, tablet, laptop supports this way of connecting to a EAP-PEAP access point why does Nokia has to keep this stance?
Nokia has kept everything open on the Nokia N8, it has everything that a anyone can ask for in a smartphone, so why is Nokia so adamant on this small matter of not requiring a server certificate?
Now that the WP7 line of Lumia devices are in the market can someone tell me if the problem exists on those phones too. I wont be surprised if this restriction is still there.
With Nokia going downhill so fast it does not help with this kind of attitude towards diehard Nokia followers.
Can someone from Nokia tech say once and for all if I can ever expect this thing to be fixed?
raman

Answer 1

ramany wrote:
What should be an appropriate title for this thread. There was an older thread for the same that i started six months back when Anna was released. So i this expecting something to happen with Belle.
If nothing happens I will probably start a new one when future updates to Symbian in Clara. Donna, Emma, Florina, Georgia, Hanna, Isabelle, Jenna, Kate, Linda, Marie, Nancy, Olivia, Patty, Quinn, Rita, Sabina, Terry, Uma, Vega, Wyome, Xandra, Yetta and Zoe are released.
I hope Symbian (Nokia) lasts that long, but the support of this comes in Belle.
I see no jokes yet...common guys.isn't anyone subjected to jokes because of this.
At least give me some so i can feed more to the one going around.
Well, I believe the example of EAP-TTLS + PAP authentication isn't 'without certificates'... it does use certificates, but EAP-TTLS + PAP just doesn't happen to be a supported authentication method with recent Symbian phones.
I'm not any sort of wireless authentication guru, but there's probably a better, more precise description of the authentication support (probably a few methods) that's currently missing in Symbian.
And a couple more details for some wireless authentication methods... I believe Windows users typically have to grab a third-party 'securew2' utility to support some of the more robust (read better, more secure) authentication methods for some networks.
I think one of the more valid arguments for EAP-TTLS + PAP in general, is that I believe it may be part of the 'Eduroam' standard, although MSCHAPv2 may also be substituted for PAP, IIRC... but again, I'm not a wireless authentication guru.
In any case, if well-known, widely-implemented (or soon to be implemented, for good reason) authentication methods aren't supported in Symbian, it just makes Symbian just looks a bit ridiculous and irrelevant.
Your previous thread was quite good, and it may make sense to keep bumping that thread for updates periodically. I noticed that someone mentioned an MSCHAPv2 scenario in that thread, but again... that's not actually helpful for resolving EAP-TTLS + PAP support, and I think that there's probably a concise way to describe the current 'missing authentication methods support' in Symbian.
It continues to baffle me how Nokia seems to have such a quiet, secretive presence on these forums, when I think it would make much more sense to publicly acknowledge relevant threads/discussions, and make a statement about planned fixes, updates, etc... rather than just have people wonder if/when Nokia is paying any attention to the discussions here.