ODI and OWB???

Hi every one I would like to know the difference between Oracle Data Integrator and Oracle Warehouse Builder. Can I use ODI in place of OWB or in reverse??
Thanks,
Pratap.

1. OWB comes free with the 11g DB where as you need to buy ODI.
2. ODI is acquired by Oracle from Sunopsis where as OWB is Oracle's own.
3. ODI is compatible with Webservices etc where as in OWB you cannot call a webservice.
4. For ODI the metadata can be stored in any relational database from any vendor; where as OWB you need Oracle to store the metadata.
5. OWB is ETL whereas ODI is ELT. It takes the power of the target database for Transformation.
6. Data Quality comes free with OWB whereas you need to Buy DQ as a separate module for ODI
7. ODI is completely written in open standard Java language not sure about OWB
8. OWB is good for Data Mininng.
9. ODI easily integrates with Oracle SAO suite tools such as BPEL and ESB
10. I may be wrong but - I think Informatica is a better tool for pure and complex data warehousing projects. Where as ODI is an excellent tool for Integration projects.
my 2 cents
:)

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I work with ODI and Essbase for the first time. I've read ODI documentationbut it did't help.
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In the "Topology manager" in "Physical Architecture" under the "Essbase Hyperion" I created "Data Server" and in the definition tab I filled "Name", "Server" (with port), "User", "Password".
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