One IDOC to multiple messages

Hi Experts,
I am working on IDOC to File Scenario
I have to send three messages using one idoc.
Could any one let me know whether is it possible to send with out using BPM or any suggest any other way.
Thanks in Advance.
Regards,
Vijay

Hi
If u want to send the three message at the receiver side then u have to make the occurence for the target is 0..unbounded. and use the 1:n mapping in the message mapping.
To make the 1:N mapping in the message mapping go to the messages tab and put the occurence for the target message as 0..unbounded. when u do this it will creath the multiple message at the receiver side.
Remember u also have to make the same changes in the interface mapping also.
To give differnt names to all the file u can use the Addtime Stamp option in the file adfapter so it will create the file with the name as time stamp.
If u still face the problem please reply me back.
Thanks
Rinku

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