Optimize mtu and mss

Dear all,
It is about a IPSEC/GRE over WAN...
Would you please confirm or comment the following in terms of MTU:
1. On GRE tunnel interfaces "ip mtu" and "ip tcp adjust-mss" is mandatory. "tunnel path-mtu-discovery" is good to have and will allow DF bit to be set in the outer header. If "tunnel path-mtu-discovery" is to be applied, ICMP should not be blocked between routers.
2. On inside router interfaces "ip tcp adjust-mss" is mandatory and will be the same value as on the tunnel interfaces. This will make sure TCP traffic from inside hosts is OK.
3. It is mandatory that ICMP messages are not blocked between inside hosts and WAN routers in order for PMTUD for hosts to be working.
Thanks in advance,
Mladen

No you have not mis-read the document - maybe just been lead down a path a little, my answers are based on experiance.
I have found that tunnel path-mtu-discovery/PMTUD/BlackHole MTUD do not work in 99.999% of the cases where I have had mtu issues - Windows OS has been where the issues lie. I have never encounted a time where the Windows OS has actually taken any notice of the ICMP fragmentation needed message has been recevied.
Some Cisco platforms cannot use the tcp mss adjust command on transient packets, only packets sourced from the deivce are effected.
Cisco firewalls, have default configuration in regards to fragementation - the packets will be fragemented prior to encrypting the packet and they copy the DF bit = the packet will be dropped due to being oversized.
What I do when dealing with GRE/IPSEC tunnels is either:-
1) Change the MTU of the workstations/servers - works in small enviroments, does not scale.
2) You do not have to worry about MTU/MSS sizes on internet sites generally, as the remote servers wil 99% negotiate a small MSS.
3) Use where possible tcp mss adjust on routers and firewalls (this is a great place, especially when you are not using GRE tunnels)
4) Perform packet captures to determine if an application will send ALL packets with the DF bit set, or as normal just the TCP handshake.
Below is a good example:-
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6120/products_configuration_example09186a008081e621.shtml
HTH>

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