Oracle 8 Triggers vs. Procedures

We're trying to decide if we should convert existing, and frequently fired, trigger bodies to procedures. A lot of the documentation suggests that procedures are the best way to go. I'm trying to understand the difference in how triggers and procedures are stored, specifically in the shared pool. One set of documentation says that both procedures and triggers are cached the same way in the shared pool and remain there based on the LRU list. Another set of doc says that the source code for a trigger is flushed from the shared pool after firing. Is this the difference? Is there a definite recommendation for keeping the triggers as is or converting the trigger bodies to procedures?
Thanks!

Stored Procedure is compiled and converted into P-code(Pseudo code) it will not take much time execute, but the trigger body is compiled each time trigger fires,it will reduce the performance of the transaction.
each time trigger body need to be compiled &kept into SGA, but procedure or function or package will be directly loaded into the SGA.
any more or other reason post it.
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