Oracle BI EE. Alternative Sorts.

Hello!
I have such problem.
I have table with fild, which called "Term".
Values:
1 day
1-3 years
1-3 months
2-7 days
3-5 years
3-6 months
6-12 months
8-30 days
I want select this values like
1 day
2-7 days
8-30 days
1-3 months
3-6 months
6-12 months
1-3 years
3-5 years
How can I do this?
Does exist in Oracle BI EE such thing like "Alternative Sorts" in Oracle Discoverer?

Could you explain the context of this field please, if your values are fixed as you describe it seems unlikely you would be able to select alternative values, in OBI it is more usual to have two date dimensions, such as start date and end date, if you want to be able to select a range.
How is your fact table related to this date range?
Rgds
Ed

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Read?
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ALex,
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Oracle 10G gives in sorted order without order by ,in 11g it is not.

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