Organizing albums in the Zen Mi

I am using Creative MediaSource to transfer folders from the PC to the Zen Micro. I copy folder to folder by dragging the folder to the right side. It shows as a folder. I did this with 24 folders. When I disconnected the Zen Micro from the PC and turned it on I see only 5 folders and all of the rest of the tracks under "unknown" How do I get all folders to list as folders? Thanks.

I have a similar problem. I am computer literate, so this is killing me. I cannot organize my music in folders using the standard windows explorer. The Explorer window displays the folders, the Creative MediaSource recognizes the folders, but the Zen Micro does not display the folders.
I know that the Zen Micro Media Explorer might help, but the Zen Micro Media Explorer does not recgnize that the unit is plugged in. I have tried all USB ports, etc. I have installed the software twice without hiccu
ps.
I have updated all downloads from the website. What else can I do.
I simply want to organize my songs in folders like "travel music," "riding music," "lifting," etc., but the Zen micro only keeps the songs in generic folders categorized by artist, album, and genre. I also tried to create a playlist on the Zen Micro, but when I am playing a song and choose the add to playlist function, it puts EVERY song in that folder on the playlist. For example, I go to the "rap" genre and play 50 cent "Candy Shop." I add to playlist "Candy Shop" but all songs in the CL "Rap" folder go to the playlist. All I want is to organize my music how I want and for the Zen Micro interface to recognize it. Thanks for any help you can give.

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I use itunes to play music on my comp and I was wondering if the artwork I have saved in itunes will work on the Zen M.

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Go to the support section under contact, and file a report there of the bug.
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!!! Laurent from Paris (France)

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Organizing the Zen Photo music library - how

Hi,
I just got my Zen Micro Photo, and I quickly threw whatever music I had on it.
I started browsing it, and quickly saw that extremely many files were just listed as 'Unknown', yet could be played.
Having knowledge about computers I realized that the Zen apparently draws its informations from the files document info, which can be accessed through properties when right clicking a file.
Is there any way to make the Zen just get the information from the name of the file, or in some way change the document info of thousands of files in an easier way than manually right clicking each and everyone of them?
I'm somewhat of a perfectionist, and I'd like all the files on my zen to be listed the same kind of way.
I hope you guys have some ideas and suggestions
Thanks in advance!

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An extensive look at the Zen Vision:M for those considring buying one (plus my firmware wishli

 Well first, I want to say that this is the 0th mp3 player that I have owned. This is definitely the best and most powerful player I have ever owned. With that said, its not perfect either, hence the purpose of this review. As I did on this board with the Zen Micro, I write this review in hopes that Creative will listen. Hopefully, creative will read this and take it to heart.
SOUND QUALITY:
 This is what any music device should be about right? Nothing else matters if the sound quality stinks. I used to own Creative?s Zen Micro. The sound on it was great but the bass was lacking. The best sounding mp3 player I?ve ever owned was Iri'ver?s old H20. With its customizable SRS settings, it still stands out against all others I have encountered. If that Iri'ver was the best, I am happy to say that this little device is a very close second. Creative included a bass boost function, and paired with the customizable EQ settings, the sound is amazing. It knocks the micro out of the ballpark.
MENU NAVIGATION:
 The menu on this thing is very familiar to that of other Zen players, including the micro. That?s not a bad thing since the navigation system is the most popular among most mp3 players of this class. I used to own Phillip?s HDD 6330, and that player and the 5th generation iPod have something that the Vision:m lacks. I have all of my music specifically organized by genre. I would like to go into the genre folder, and select a song by title, not by artist, then title. On the 5G iPod, and the HDD6330, the first menu option when going into the genre folder in ?All Titles?. So, all you had to do was select genre / all titles and you had every song in your library from that genre. This player lacks that ability.
 I will give praise to Creative for its side alphabetical bar. This has made scrolling my library very much easier. This is a very innovati've feature to use. I also give them props for making the main menu customizable. If Creative will add that one thing, its menu system would be unmatched and close to perfection!!!
FEATURES:
 Creative has built a host of features in this thing as they do with a lot of their players. The FM radio is good and the voice recorder is good. Now lets get to the good stuff. The Vision:m actually lets you choose your own background. Not only that, but for the picture you do decide to use, its lets you edit its brightness and color tone. This feature definitely comes in handy. I selected a nice picture of me and my son at the town fair, and it was way to bright. The letters on the screen were hard to read no matter what theme I used. Upon selecting a picture to use as background, the player gives you the option to raise or lower its brightness and color tone. I lowered the brightness and changed the tone and now, the background looks great. Creative should have gone that extra mile and gave the player the ability randomly select a new background every day.
 Also, I am liking the content password feature that gives you the ability to hide video and picture folders. Basically, if I wanted to, I can create a folder on my Vision:m, put some porn in it (come on, that?s what this is really about), and on the player, set it the folder to ?protected?. On the players System settings, set the option to hide all protected folders to ?hide? and you are all set. To unhide the folders, go back into System Settings and select it. Upon selecting it, you will be prompted for the password. I also like the fact the Creative include a calendar and organizer into the player. It?s nice however unnecessary it may be.
USER INTERFACE:
 I have got to give creative its pro
ps.
Those who criticize Creative for copying iPod really have no idea what Creative has done! Its ergonomic design is the best I have seen since the iPod!!! It is designed for one handed thumb use. One of the problems with the micro and other players like it is the fact that its touch pad was too sensiti've and by simply holding the player, it was a good chance you would accidentally access a function, when the hold switch wasn?t on. The only thing that?s touch sensiti've here is the scroll pad. Creative brilliantly included two side buttons along the thumb pad, which you can easily press with your thumb. This is not copy-catting. This is innovation! Add to that, the other outside buttons that surround the thumb pad are NOT touch sensiti've. They are clickable buttons. The chances of accidental button pressing are greatly minimized. My only problem with the setup is that Creative foolishly assigned the scroll pad buttons to song skip access. That?s fine and dandy when you are in the ?Now playing screen?, but when navigating the menu, it'ss a slight discomfort. The side buttons would be extremely useful when navigating the menu system. Especially with one handed use.
VIDEO and PICTURES
 Well, the one feature that sets this player apart is its ability to play video right? Well, when I first got my player and through my content on it, I threw some videos (less porn) that were on my computer on the player. They played flawlessly with no video conversion necessary. They included a downloaded episode of ?BattleStar Galactica?, ?Boston Legal?, and ?Prison Break?. They all played beautifully. I don?t know if the player?s CPU can handle it, but I would love the ability to fast forward or scan through long video files a lot faster. Selecting ?Seek To? from the menu helps a lot, but its not fast enough. Also, I would like for Creative to add quicktime or .mov support if its possible (legally). My digital camera and cell phone records video clips in .mov format. I also have lots of trailers on my computer in quicktime format. It would be nice if I can simply drop some of the clips on the player without converting them first.
 The Pictures show great on this player. You can't scroll through them as quickly and as crisp as with the iPod but there is a reason for that. The ipod scales down and convert photos so they can be shown on the screen. The Creative doesn?t do that. Simply drop the picture on the device and it will be displayed. The benefit to this method is that the player allows you to zoom in on the photos which is a very nice feature and an adequate trade
In. It makes transferring pictures faster also. Add to that, you can switch the folder view and thumbnail picture view to vertical scroll. Speaking of which, where is the USB OTG? This would be a big plus if you had it.
 The AV out works great also. I don?t have a/v cables that connect to the player on hand but I did have red and black audio cables that would connect. I stuck the jack in about half way and connected the red on to the video in port on the TV and it worked. I still highly recommend purchasing the a/V cables for it.
PLAYER DESIGN:
 What can I say. So, it looks like the iPod. But should we really fault Creative for that? iRi'ver?s H300 was the first mp3 player to have support for photo?s. When the iPod photo debuted, you could very well have accused Apple of ?copying? iRi'ver. The only way this player copies the iPod is the fact the screen is the same size and dimension. Oh, and the controls are on the bottom. Kind of like the same way Apple ?copied? iRi'ver. I emphasize the word copy because both of theses players were in development at the same time. Creative released their player a short time after Apple. There is no way Creative could have thrown a player this functional and feature heavy together so quickly. The fact that the players look similar is mere coincidence. Other than that, like the 5G ipod, it'ss a beauty. The fact that the buttons glow gives it an extra coolness. I give creative props for its new interface which rocks and what I like to call?The Thumb Click? Oh, and Creative, the next time you release a player, you can keep the so called ?sync adapter?. I don?t like it one bit. Find a way to build the outlets into the player without compromising is size!!! Its just one more thing I have to keep up with.
SOFTWARE / COMPUTER INTERFACE:
The last time I dealt with Creative?s software is when I had the Micro. It was clunky but functional. I like what they have done this time around. Still the familiar software but more organized. My only problem is when syncing. I edited an id3 tag on my computer and synced the library again. The software failed to sync the song, listing it as an error. The only way to correct this was to delete the song from the player and re-sync it.
ZEN CAST ORGANIZER NOTE:
 Creative, I say this with the best intentions not to be taken the wrong way. You guys need to scrap the current beta software and go back to the drawing board. Do you guys even realize the potential you have with ZCO? First off, when using the sync organizer, it works, but it can't handle video. It is ridiculously slow when handling video. The syncing software in explorer works a lot better. And then ZCO doesn?t show all of the podcasts available on ZenCast. It brings up internet explorer. What you guys need to do, is go back to the drawing board and design software that expertly organizes my entire media library with extreme simplicity. Have a section for music, pictures, video, and zen/pod casts. The Music section can have the option of connecting to an online music store, the video section can have the option of connecting to an online video store, and the ZenCast, to to the Zencast website, where you can easily subscribe to any zencast without bringing up the browser.
 Lets say you guys strike a deal with?.say?..NBC. and NBC makes its episodes of ?Book of Daniel? available on the Zen video store. I should be able to purchase a season pass, and every time I sync my player, it will automatically download and/or sync the latest episode. The possibilities are endless!!!
BUGS:
I have only noticed two bugs with this player. It seems that the Vision:m has an obsessi've compulsi've need to display album art for every song played. Even songs with no album art associated with them. Since my library is organized by genre and not by album, the player simply picks another album art from the folder ad displays that art for a song with no album art. Creative please fix this because its annoying. Also, one almost unnoticeable bug. The ?song time? count at the bottom of the progress indicator in the ?Now Playing? screen seems to have a hard time counting seconds in some songs. Its too slow and eventually catches up. Then counts regularly, and speeds p again. At first I thought the problem was with VBR mp3?s but it does it with regular 28 kbit rates.
Overall Creative has built a very good player and is currently the best out there. I was a fan of the micro and am now A HUGE fan of this one. This player has yet to crash since I have had it, considering that the micro crashed 3 times by this point of my having one. In fact, this looks to be the most stable player I?ve owned as well. I want to personally thank the Creative development for making a player so superior to anything else out there and at such a competiti've price. I will stomp for your company and brand every chance I get. But You have to meet me half way. Outside the Geek world, your brand is barely recognized. You need to set up a huge base of operations in the US and heavily promote your brand. Not just in magazines and one or two city billboards, but on constant TV commercials, get some music artists on TV promoting your player. Come on guys, really show Apple that you are serious about taking them on. I realize that this costs money to do, but you have to spend money to make money right?
Below is my Firmware Wish List I prioritized them starting with the most important thing. Please try to get to some of these issues.
- fix album art bug
- make a main menu option for Zen cast. This shouldn?t be in the video folder.
- Add the ability to browse by title in the Genre folder.
- Add support for .mov format to video please.
- USB On the Go would be a nice addition as well
- Add the ability to randomly select a new background from a pre selected group of photos every time the player is turned on or each day.
- SRS if possible. It sounds wonderful on other players.
- Make side scroll pad buttons to be used for navigating menu system.
- A small game or two wouldn?t hurt, but add more coolness to it.
Thank you for listening

wow, very nice review Makes me want to get a vision for myself.
WebKnight wrote:

Add the ability to randomly select a new background from a pre selected group of photos every time the player is turned on or each day.
I would love that feature. I can't stand useing my computer with a single wall paper anymore (I have 500 anime pics that i rotate between every 2 mins ) If you could make the vision rotate background every x minutes or every time the player is turned on, it would be totally amazeningly sweet!!!! (i might have to go out and buy one then :P)
I just hope that creative has better firmware support with the vision than they have had with the touch.
Once again, great review

Is there a way to view all albums in the way you can view all events?

I am finally giving serious consideration to moving over to using albums more. However, I am addicted to being able to see all of my events laid out with key photos. I'm not sure why you can't view albums in this manner - having them show up in a grid format in the main window with key photos for each. Everyone says albums are supposed to be the primary organization tool but having a giant list of 200 Albums down the left that I have to scroll down and down and down through to find something doesn't seem very user friendly to me. And if albums are supposed to be for all your custom-organized photos, then why can't you select a "key photo" for them? If events are supposed to be a dump by date for batches of photos, why would you even need a "key photo" option?

Send a feature request to Apple via http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html.
OT

How do I find albums in the Finder? Where did they go?

Just upgraded to iPhoto 06 from 04. When I look for photos in Finder I don't see any of my albums listed. The file structure is totally changed, and I don't even have a folder for 2006 but I do have prior years, which I can then look in to see pictures by date. My 2006 photos can be found only under "DATA" by roll numbers, a somewhat annoying new concept.
Am I missing something really simple here? Why is the folder structure for photos completely changed in iPhoto 06? Why can't I find photos via album in the Finder anymore, and is there any way to fix that? This is a problem for uploading to sites like Shutterfly, for example (it was a total pain to try and do that and and it seems to be a significant deficiency in the program as compared to the earlier version. Any help appreciated!
PB 15" 1.0 Ghz 1.25G RAM Mac OS X (10.4.5)

Hi dscott1000,
Yes the folder structure/organization has changed in iPhoto 6. The Albums folder in the iPhoto Library folder in the Finder, however, that was in earlier versions of iPhoto has been done away with, starting with iPhoto 5.
iPhoto 5 (and now 6) now stores the Album information in a data xml file. The Albums folder within the iPhoto Library folder is no longer used. At some point, usually after a rebuild, you will no longer have that folder in the Finder.
If you need to access photos from an album it is very difficult for a third party application to navigate the iPhoto Library in order to find the photo you need. You will have to know the date of import in order to find the photo.
There are some third party applications that can read the xml file and can navigate the iPhoto library and show you the Albums. Hopefully more applications will be revised to read this file.
Until then you will have to Share/Export the photos to the desktop. You can then navigate to the desktop to use the photos (example: web uploading from online photo site)
If your application supports drag and drop, you can drag the photo from an open iPhoto Library window into your application.
For email you can also use the email icon within iPhoto to open a message with the highlighted photo attached.
You can also use spotlight to find images in an Album...
This is what I have done using Spotlight to find my images that are in iPhoto albums without opening iPhoto..
In iPhoto, select the album, then select all, go to Photos/batch change.
Change the comments to text. In the text field I put the name of the Album.
Do this for each album.
Close iPhoto.
Open Spotlight and put in the name of the Album ( you have to remember the names of the albums or have then written down)
In the spotlight search results. click on "show all"
Under "Images" click on the "xx more" to show all the images in the album.
Make sure you have it in icon view, the icon view box is the last one on the blue images line.
Now you can control click on the image to "reveal in finder", open in iPhoto or Mail, etc.
I am not sure if this is going to make you happy and it is a little more work, but you can find images in albums and even view them in a slideshow (by clicking the play arrow at the end of the Images highlighted blue line) using Spotlight, all without opening iPhoto.
One important thing to know is you can set up a graphic program to be an external editor (when you double click an image in the library} such as PhotoShop or PS Elements. You set up that within iPhoto Preferences. Just make sure you save the image flattened and with the same name. The edits will then be relected in iPhoto when you hit "save".
Two Apple kbs for you to read
Don't tamper with files in the iPhoto library folder
About the iPhoto Library folder
This is how iPhoto 6 is organized in the Finder:
iPhoto 6 Library folder in the Finder
As you can see the structure is now related to rolls. Rolls are created for each folder you import and each import session from a camera.
It is very easy to change the names of film rolls within iPhoto to make them easier to find images within. Open the info panel in iPhoto by clicking on the "i" icon. Once it is opened, click on the roll title in the viewing window.
Click on the word "title" in the info pane and type in your new title. I like to use a date and text format such as 12/25/05 Christmas at Mom's, 1/05/06 my birthday, etc. Once the roll names are changed within iPhoto, they are also changed within the Finder, making it easy to locate an image.
When importing from a camera, make sure you name the roll with a date and text before the import.
To help with your Shutterfly program, there is a plugin for iPhoto.
Shutterfly Upload Assistant

How do I delete a photo from an album? I don't want to ctrl delete b/c I don't want to delete it forever. It just landed in the wrong album (there is a copy in the correct album and the wrong album)

I've got photos organized into projects by year, folder by month and then broken into albums within the months (mom of young kids). When I was creating albums yesterday, I didn't notice a little box that says "do you want to put selected photos in album?" So every time I created a new album, it put the photo that I had been working on in that album. I want that photo (in the album in which it belongs), so I don't want to ctrl+delete. But I don't want that photo in 10 other albums. How can I get it out of the albums where I don't want it?

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Note that's the delete key with no modifier.Command-delete will delete the version from the project.

Iphoto and organizing albums...

I'm slowly learning iphoto and I'm having a hard time with organizing albums/folders. I like to organize my pictures by using albums/folders like in windows. I've created albums/folders and I'm taking the photos from events and putting them into these newly named albums/folders. The problem is that when I go to move them around to organize by my preference, I can't drop and drag without the album/folder going into another album/folder. It does allow me to drop to the bottom, but it goes into the last album/folder and then I have to move it out of that. It's very cumbersome and there has to be an easier way, I'm making due, but I'm doing things that are very confusing and time consuming.

Folder drag and drop the same way as albums do. Movie Test Folder 1 to between the other two folders:
Select, drag and drop
to give you this:
One just needs to be sure the cursor is at the far left before releasing.
OT

Album Art in Zen Vision M / How did you do

This question is for those of you who have actually gotten the Album Art to show up in the Zen Vision M.
I have been trying to figure it out for 3 days straight and I need some serious. My firmware version is .0.0 is this the right firmware?
I have made an attempt with WMP 0 using the Advanced Tag Edit, and I can get the Album Art to show up in WMP "Now Playing" tab, but when I sync to my Vision M, the album art does not transfer into it. I have tried, manually dropping the album art in several directories, the root / album / and photo directories but the album art does not appear.
I have even tried RealPlayer and a few Album Art programs on this message board and I get the same results.
So can someone provide me some set by step instructions or give me a link to where those intructions might be?

Hello all:
I have an idea for those who are looking to add album art:
I have yet to see if it works with the Vision:M (mine will be here next week), but I used mediamonkey to add album art to my mp3 catalog (,200+ songs). Its easy to do and you can add art to an entire album of songs at one time. It uses Amazon's database for album art. As long as you have things properly tagged its completely automated (It took me ~.5 hours to ad album art to my entire collection). It will also ask you if you want the picture to be embedded in the id3 tag (which as far as I know you do for the Vision:M). Finally, mediamonkey is a great Mp3 management tool. Its free and you can get it at www.mediamonkey.com.
John

Why are my Albums in the wrong order!!

All of my albums in my itunes library are in the correct running order, likewise with my playlists. But i can't seem to get them in the right order on my new ipod. The playlists are fine. But the albums are in completely the wrong running orders in each and every one of my albums!! My ipod isn't set on Shuffle. What gives??? Is this the only way i can listen to individual albums, all jumbled up with the first track halfway through etc?? Someone please help!!!

Hey man. Your problem is that the albums in iTunes are organized by the track number only. But when comes to iPod you must add the total number. E.g. track 1 is numbered 1. Make it 1 of what ever. In iTunes choose the album you want organize correctly. Then highlight all the tracks. Then right click one and choose Get Info. You can see under the track number you have two boxes. One for the track number and the other for the number of all tracks in the album. Just add the number of all track in that album to the second box. It fixed the problem for me & hope it does the same for you.

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