Original quality export of DV

I'm capturing old analog S-VHS tapes via Canopus converter, no problems. Editing, titling, no problems. Making DVD with menus, no problems. But, after editing original footage, I'd like to save/export the edited projects at full orignal quality. That capture took 13 GB for one hour; DVD and highest quality Share output I can find is only about 4 GB/hour (70 minutes for a 4.7 GB file or DVD). Is this really fully as good (for archiving, possible future editing) as the original 13 GB/hour .avi files?

Bob Metzler wrote:
Is this really fully as good (for archiving, possible future editing) as the original 13 GB/hour .avi files?
No. The Digital Video captured from your Canopus is the raw data feed, you could consider it the DV equivalent of RAW on a stills camera (although technically they are very different). Once you've put it onto DVD the data is compressed by the MPEG2 encoder. After subsequent editing of this compressed data, if put back onto DVD, it is again compressed. The parallel with still photos here is editing JPEG photos and resaving them as jpegs. Each time you save a little more original data is lost.
So saving the original 13GB/hour (this is typical but does not represent an absolute bit rate) capture is best if you have sufficient storage medium (disk, blu-ray, or (as ATR touches on) Tape (my Canopus ADVC300 can convert Analog direct to DV Tape).
Or you could encode them using a lossless codec - plenty of information in Bill Hunts Tips & ticks article at http://forums.adobe.com/thread/875797.
Cheers,
Neale
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