Orphan entries in Realm as a result of using usermanager

Hi All,
The usermanager first uses the realm class to create newuser and then use the
profilemanager and others to create property. Now my question if the later fails
then the entries saved in the realm won't be rolled back (even if the realm is
RDBMS) as it's already commited.
This is my understanding. Am I right ? If yes, then this may create orphan entries.
Can anybody pls tell me if there is any work around or not ?
TIA,
Sudarson

Thank you very much Tom. Yeah, I think I may have to go for some custom realm as
u have suggested. You're right it won't make sense to have roll back for non-transactional
realm like LDAP. So it's perfectly okay that cashing realm doesn't contain any
rollback sort of the method. The thing I was expecting that if there is some extra
method implemented in RDBMS realm class in p13n, so that if some one can make
use of it.
anyway, is that possible to inherit custom RDBMS realm class from the RDBMS realm
provided in p13n and incorporate the rollback method ?
Thanking you once again,
Regards,
Sudarson
"Tom Stamm" <[email protected]> wrote:
Well like I said there is no method in the weblogic realm interface to
support rollback, so we couldn't really expose it. For example, rolling
back
a transaction might not make sense in the case of something like an ldap
realm.
If this is a big issue for you, your best bet might be to create your
own
realm implementation which does expose a rollback method. Then when you
catch an exception you can grab the realm, cast it to your specific
implementation, and rollback the transaction. FYI our realm is loosely
based
on the sample RDBMSRealm that is in the weblogic server examples, we
just
added things like delegate pooling and a more robust group table structure.
So you can probably use that as a starting point too.
Your realm would probably also have to be designed as a singleton, with
some
sort of static method to find itself, since there is no way to retrieve
the
delegate realm from the CachingRealm. You would need to set that singleton
instance in the realm's constructor, which gets called by the server
on
startup.
Hope that helps...
-Tom
"sudarson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Thanks Tom for your help.
Regarding conection pool and realm, I got the point why u need therealm
before
connection pool is to be created. If I'm not it's because it may berequired to
check whether the logged in user has the access to the pool or not.
But still somewhere u have created connection usingDriverManager.getConnection
and perhaps setAutocommit also to false. So is any method there inthat
class
which will call that connection.rollback() ?
Beacuse it's always safe to have rollback rather than trying to deleteentries
in the exception block. As u never know what could be the situationwhere
that
exception will arise. Suppose, there is a network problem or some databaseproblem
itself while this exception has occured and so the deletion mechanismwon't work.
Pls correct me if I'm wrong.
So if u can pls suggest any alternative, it will be of great help.
Thanks,
Sudarson
"Tom Stamm" <[email protected]> wrote:
Unfortunately, there is no rollback functionality in the realm interface,
which we implement; and there really is no way around needing to
initialize
the realm's connections before the main connection pools are created,
since
the connection pool calls the realm on creation.
Are you running into a specific problem with an exception happeningwhile
creating a new user's profile? It seems like the only thing that would
cause
this is if there was a problem with the database, in which case therealm
entry should not have been created either...
But if you're just looking for a way to delete the realm entry, youcan
always call the realm directly in your catch block:
import weblogic.security.acl.CachingRealm;
import weblogic.security.acl.Security;
import weblogic.security.acl.User;
CachingRealm realm = (CachingRealm)Security.getRealm();
User user = realm.getUser( username );
if ( user != null )
realm.deleteUser( user ):
"sudarson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hi Tom,
Thanks for the help.
I have couple of questions here:
1. But isn't it a bad thing to have this kind of situtation ? BecauseI
may be
interested to insert the record of an user with his profile. And
if
profile couldn't
be created, realm entry should be rolled back. Is there any methodcalled
rollback
in the realm class, so that if an exception occurs we can roll backthe
realm
operation in the catch block .
2. otherwise, it won't be a good design to create user with all
profile
and property
data without this kind of support.
Pls do suggest.
Thanks,
Sudarson
"Tom Stamm" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Sudarson,
The RDBMS realm uses it's own connection pool for database
connectivity,
because at the time the realm is booted up, the reglar connectionpools
are
unavailable. (they call the realm on initialization, so you have
a
chicken-and-egg situation) The ProfileManager uses the standard
"commercePool" connection pool, via a DataSource. So unfortunatelywe
do not
support transactions in this situation.
However, the UserManager is designed to work with realms that areout
of its
control, so if there is a realm entry without a corresponding profile
entry,
it will automatically create a new profile entry. So in your caseof
having
an orphan realm entry, there shouldn't be anything to worry about.
If your situation requires special handling, you can always implement
your
own custom realm by extending weblogic.security.acl.ManageableRealm.
Hope that helps,
-Tom
"sudarson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hi Daniel,
Thanks for the reply.
Thru admin tool it can be removed. But my concern is that it
should
not
create
at all any orphans. Can we give some kind of transactional behaviourto
this so
that if any exception arises while saving profile data, realm
should
also
roll
back the user entry as well as the userid sequence in the sequencertable
Is that possible ?
Thanks,
Sudarson
"Daniel Selman" <[email protected]> wrote:
Sudarson,
Could you please post your test code and I will get an engineer
to
take
a
look. Are the orphans NOT being removed by the User Management
admin
tools?
Sincerely,
Daniel Selman
"sudarson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hi All,
It's very urgent. Can anyone pls help me in this regard?
THanks,
Sudarson
"sudarson" <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I have also gone thru this section.
But
have
u
tested this
? As in my case, I'm getting orphan entries while simulating
exception
at property
data insertion and getting orphan entries as a result.
Actually this usermanager calls most probably realm.newUserand
in
the
realm class
data is always commited.
Can any body pls suggest ? Perhaps BEA folks may help in
this
regard.
Thanks,
Sudarson
"Prady" <[email protected]> wrote:
Here is a snippet of the documentation:
Integration between Profiles and the Realm
The User Manager and Group Manager session beans act as
a
single
entry
point
for user/group profiles and user/group security. When
createUser
or
removeUser is called, they delegate to both the realm and
the
profile
manager components to ensure that they stay synchronized.
If a read-only realm such as LDAP is being used, new users
and
groups
cannot
be created through the User Manager or Group Manager. However,profiles
for
users and groups that exist in the realm will be created
on-the-fly.
For
example, if a user "joe" exists in your LDAP server, and
you
are
running
the
LDAP realm, the first time Joe's profile is requested the
UserManager
will
see that the profile does not exist. It will then verify
that
Joe
exists
as
a user in the realm, and will create a new profile record
at
that
point
and
return it. Because the UserManager has no way to know when
users
and
groups
are removed from the realm, this can result in leftover
profile
records
that
belong to users and groups that no longer exist.
Note: The User Management Administration Tools provide a
means
to
cleanup
these leftover records. See the section Deleting User Records
That
Do
Not
Exist in the Realm from the Personalization Database.
In your case, the next time the user profile is requested
for
the
user
who
has an entry in the Realm, but not in the user profile,
it
will
create
a new
profile record and return it (provided you are using the
default
profile
manager and not your custom profile manager. If you have
implemented
a
custom profile manager, you can either try to re-create
the
profile
the
first time or when a user profile is requested at a later
stage).
Prady
"sudarson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hi All,
The usermanager first uses the realm class to create newuser
and
then
use
the
profilemanager and others to create property. Now my question
if
the
later
fails
then the entries saved in the realm won't be rolled back
(even
if
the
realm is
RDBMS) as it's already commited.
This is my understanding. Am I right ? If yes, then this
may
create
orphan
entries.
Can anybody pls tell me if there is any work around or
not
TIA,
Sudarson

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Regards,
Sandeep

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Regards,
Sandeep Kulkarni

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