Panther or Tiger for a PB G4?

I am installing a new HD in my PB-G4 and I am considering running it with Panther instead of Tiger. This is because while recently using Tiger and running CPU intensive activities (videos or in Safari), the computer would get very hot, the fans would run at high speed and ultimately the computer would go to sleep. I assume that Tiger demands more power from the CPU than Panther and that the PB should run cooler with Panther (is this correct or am I dead wrong?). Or is it possible that my failing HD was making my PB get hot? If this is a possibility, I would go to Tiger...
I only use this PB top check my email, surf through the internet, so Panther should suffice.
Any thoughts?

Hi,
Interesting question!
I have a G4-15", came with Panther... still has it. Runs around 132-144 degree's on the CPU with my activity. My daughter has a G4-12", came with Tiger...still has it. Hers runs around 135-145 degrees with her normal use. She brings it over to use my high-speed and I play around with it. Both are original equipment plus all the updates Apple has offered and the temp difference is marginal. Her's is a plastic case, mine is aluminum... one may remove heat better then the other but they seem pretty equal. I have 1.5 G Memory (use 300-500 normally), her's has the original 512 Meg and uses about 300-400 normally, she shut's hers off more often and the memory use comes back down, I leave mine on (in sleep) more often, and the mem use keeps going up slowly, until I shut it down.
We both are looking to upgrade to Leopard when it comes out... Apple has some slick software and uses memory a lot less intensely then Microsoft does. Leopard should be no different, only better.
And, yes, I have not upgraded to Tiger because Panther does suffice for what I do with this machine. But even Tiger has some neat things I do not, but, do not need now either. Leopard has the time machine (which I am doing manualy now with my software updates, in case the new one has a problem I can back-up one notch) which does the same thing in auto.
It's your PB... Enjoy it.

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Call 1-800-MY-APPLE WRT media exchange program and the DVD version you have.

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In step 3, I moved the contents of the BJPrinters
folder to the desktop instead of deleting them
(deleting is so final).
We need to delete and empty the trash. It seems that for some setups, leaving the files on the system (including the trash) interferes with the new driver installation/operation.
In step 4, the only file that seemed close to what
you mentioned was CanonPrinterDrivers.pkg. I moved
it to the desktop also.
This is the original package included with the OS for the Canon BJ drivers we are deleting. In case you ever need to add an old Canon driver then it would be best to put this file back. But it is odd that there is no other Canon package. I expected there to be one for the iP5000 that you installed.
The result was the same as before - when I try to add
the printer the "Print Using" menu still shows a
greyed out "please select a driver of printer model".
The Canon folder still shows the same gimp-print
options, none of which are related to the iP5000.
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to delete the files rather than just move them to the
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Hello,
I have a Blueberry color Imac G3 which was made in spring of 2000. I recently bought a new ibook and want to upgrade the older mac as my sister is now using it. I asked this ? a long time back but am requesting any further help you can give. The imac has 640 of ram and the Hardrive is 30 gig. There's almost nothing taking up any HD space and almost all is available. This mac is mostly used to surf the net. I do however want to install either Panther or Tiger on this unit. The person who responded before said to use a retail version for a full install. Also, would either Panther or Tiger work on this mac?
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omshanti:
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Panther: Archive and Install
If you do not have a Full Retail Version you can get one on eBay relatively inexpensively.
If you have the right disks here is what you do.
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2. Check to see if you have the latest Firmware Update: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86117
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7. Quit Disk Utility and open the Installer.
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NOTE (below):
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deep breath...this is going to be long and detailed, but I am hoping someone here can help me since AppleCare has not been able to figure it out and I am at a loss now. I have been in the iPhoto forum but apparently the problem is much larger than one app.
We have a iBookG4, purchased from a Mac Store in Sept. 2004. It has been to AppleCare 4 times for various problems and 2 hard drive crashes that we have had to do reinstalls ourselves here at home, the most recent repair this past week. When we got it back Wednesday, it only had Panther loaded--we had been running Tiger for over a year--frustrating, but OK, as I had the orginal Tiger disk so I re-installed it. Proceeded to hook up our external and began loading all the pics and music back on the laptop. It would not open our photos, saying we needed to use the newer version of iPhoto. We had been using iPhoto 5.0.4 since March 06. As I looked further Garage Band and iDVD were also missing completely, which we previously had, and I am sure there are others, I just noticed these two since I use them the most.
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When Tiger is loaded, I am still missing GarageBand, iDVD, iWork and the iCal icon is there but whe I open it is is not recognized. We had all of these apps working fine before it was sent in for service last week.
Now the questions:
1. There are 2 Software Install and Restore disks that came with our laptop, but it never asks for the second disk to be loaded--it only loads one disk. When I put in the second disk, it only has the Using this disk.pdf in several languages on it. Shouldn't it ask for the 2nd disk and is that probably where the Garage Band and iDVD are?
2. Why would the install disks not reload all the applications as we had them orginally, or is this related to Question #1 and there is something wrong with those disks?
2. I saved our entire hard drive to the external--did that not include the applications, therefore our iPhoto 5 is lost?
4. Is there any recourse with AppleCare, in that I know to save my files but would expect they would return it with at least the same operating system as when I sent it in?
I know you are going to ask this: I have no idea how iPhoto was loaded onto our computer. I did not buy iLife 5 or 6 (iLife 4 came with our original laptop purchase), but one day I was loading pictures and it just appeared that way--I always assumed it came through as one of the Software Updates I run every night. But I know it was March 06, because the video I took in February would not load onto iPhoto (had to use the software that came with the camera), but the ones I took April 1st did load onto iPhoto. The only other way I thought was that AppleCare loaded it, but it was in for service in November 05 and mid-April 06, nowhere near the time I noticed it being on the laptop.
Any advice?

1. There are 2 Software Install and Restore disks
that came with our laptop, but it never asks for the
second disk to be loaded--it only loads one disk.
When I put in the second disk, it only has the Using
this disk.pdf in several languages on it. Shouldn't
it ask for the 2nd disk and is that probably where
the Garage Band and iDVD are?
Often there are disks with software to be installed after OSX is installed. You don't use these disks during the install process, but after you boot OSX. Have you read the "Using this disk.pdf" file? If Garage Band and iDVD are on that disk they would be the versions shipped with the computer, not the most recent versions.
2. Why would the install disks not reload all the
applications as we had them orginally, or is this
related to Question #1 and there is something wrong
with those disks?
Some systems were shipped with two sets of disks, a restore set that restores everything that was shipped on the computer's hard drive, and an install set for just OSX. The OSX disk would be used for Disk Utility and password resetting.
3. I saved our entire hard drive to the
external--did that not include the applications,
therefore our iPhoto 5 is lost?
It depends on how you did the save.
4. Is there any recourse with AppleCare, in that I
know to save my files but would expect they would
return it with at least the same operating system as
when I sent it in?
If they had to replace the hard drive, installing the operating system that was shipped with the computer is not unreasonable. Installing the latest version could cause problems for some customers with older software, and not all customers have paid for later versions
I know you are going to ask this: I have no idea how
iPhoto was loaded onto our computer. I did not buy
iLife 5 or 6 (iLife 4 came with our original laptop
purchase), but one day I was loading pictures and it
just appeared that way--I always assumed it came
through as one of the Software Updates I run every
night. But I know it was March 06, because the video
I took in February would not load onto iPhoto (had to
use the software that came with the camera), but the
ones I took April 1st did load onto iPhoto. The only
other way I thought was that AppleCare loaded it, but
it was in for service in November 05 and mid-April
06, nowhere near the time I noticed it being on the
laptop.
There are no free or automatic updates to newer versions of iLife. If your computer came with iLife 4 you have to buy iLife 6.

Installing Panther or Tiger on a G4 450 mhz cube

I have hung on to using OS 9.2.2 on my Cube, and although I have OS 10.1 installed I have never really found it useful. Now though, I am having problems with the browsers I can use with OS 9 on internet scearches ( I mostly use the wamcom version of mozilla now, and I-Cab sometimes). The only way I can see to solve the problem is to install 10.3x or 10.4x and then I can use the safari browser.
Panther and Tiger are both still available if I do a google search. Some versions might be knock-offs and I don't want to waste money if they won't work. Then I worry if I buy a used copy if I will run into pass-word problems. What is my safest way to proceed, and which version should I get.

I think you misunderstood the rep. Tiger can definitely do Classic to run Mac OS 9 programs. I think he meant that the Tiger package does not include a Mac OS 9 installer. As long as you already have Mac OS 9.2.2 installed, you can boot from it and use it for Classic.
384mb is enough. More is better.
This is a list from OWC.
http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Upgrades.cfm?model=128
You don't have to buy from OWC, but those are the specs. Get the largest one you can afford to add to what you have. Hopefully, you still have a slot open.
I'd get Tiger instead of Panther. Software availability is why you are upgrading from Mac OS 9. If you get Panther, you can't even run the latest version of Safari. There are good browser alternatives, but going forward, more and more software will require Tiger or later.

Why upgrade from Panther to Tiger on G4 iMac?

I have two iMacs. I use a G5 recently upgraded from Panther to Leopard 10.5.5. My wife has a G4 with Panther 10.3.9.
Now that I have Leopard I have a Tiger install license available.
Are there good reasons to upgrade my wife's G4 to Tiger?
She uses it heavily for e-mail, internet, and MS Word.
She's networked to my G5 through Airport and we use printer sharing and file sharing.
Her G4 works great, but I'm wondering about security issues.
Comments?
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[Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger system requirements|http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301341]
[OS 10.3 Panther requirements|http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106163]

Going from Panther to Tiger

Hello All! My first post on THIS particular category in the Apple forums. I've been running Panther 10.3.9 on my G4 for a while now and now it's time to finally go to Tiger as I'm upgrading my Digidesign hardware which requires it. I'll be using Tiger for a while and do not require Leopard. What version of Tiger do I need to buy to do this upgrade and then.....how do I get the upgrade downloads to the final version of Tiger? Was that 10.4.11?

Hi Gothboy!
Mac OS X Versions 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4, and 10.5, are complete system upgrades that must be purchased.
Once an OS has been installed, the point upgrades, such as 10.1.x to 10.1.5 (Final) 10.2.x to 10.2.8 (Final), 10.3.x to 10.3.9 (Final), 10.4.x to 10.4.11 (Pending), and 10.5.x to 10.5.1 (Pending), can be downloaded for free.
As BDAqua posted, Tiger is available for purchase at The Apple Store (U.S.).
If your Mac meets the Leopard System Requirements, the Full Retail Version, of the Leopard Install DVD, can also be purchased at The Apple Store (U.S.).
If you know what to look for, a Full Retail Version, of the Tiger Install DVD, or a Full Retail Version, of the Leopard DVD, can also be purchased, sometimes less expensively, at some online Apple retailers, Amazon, eBay, FastMac, HardCore Mac, AllMac, etc.
This is the correct one Mac OS X 10.4.6 Tiger, (DVD) Retail, selling for $159.95, at FastMac.
And at HardCore Mac, selling for $199.99.
Notice that both, are more expensive, than, the The Apple Store (U.S.), selling for $129.00.
Be sure not to purchase grey, upgrade or machine specific CDs or DVDs.
Tiger and Leopard are on DVD.
The discs should look exactly like the images in the above links, and not say Upgrade, CPU Drop-in DVD, or "This software is part of a hardware bundle purchase - not to be sold seperately." on them.
Additional info in these links.
Using OS X Install CDs/DVDs On Multiple Macs
What's A Computer Specific Mac OS X Release
Software Update, Upgrade: What's The Difference?
Caveat Emptor!
If any are presently available, examine these items very carefully, and if in doubt, ask questions of the seller before purchase!
Tiger On eBay
Leopard On eBay
If your Mac meets the Tiger System Requirements, once the OS is installed, you can use the the PPC 10.4.11 Combo Update, to upgrade to the current version.
It isn't necessary to do the intermediate ones.
If Leopard 10.5.x is installed, use the Mac OS X 10.5.2 Combo Update.
The posted RAM System Requirement, for all versions of OS X, is the bare minimum.
For optimum performance, more is recommended.
Additionally, Tiger 10.4.x and Leopard 10.5.x, ship on a DVD, so if your Mac doesn’t have a built-in DVD-ROM player, you will have to use an alternative method of installation.
Info here Installing Tiger Using Firewire Target Disk Mode.
And here Installing Tiger Without A DVD Drive.
The Tiger Media Exchange Program, referred to, is no longer available.
There is also a version available on CDs, at FastMac, for $179.99.
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Hello,
I just upgraded one of our G5s from Panther to Tiger. When I opened mail, it began "importing" all the messages (I assume because of the update to mail.app). Now, the user who's computer I upgraded contained 9GB of mail (!!!) but the G5 had more than enough space for this. When the "importing" completes, mail.app is open and all folders/subfolders, etc. are there, but the program doesn't contain any of the messages from the import. Every folder/subfolder is empty, the inbox is empty, etc. AND, to top it off, the HD of the G5 now has zero free space (while, when before the import, it had at least 40GB of free space). Does anyone know a fix for this? Has this happened before?
Regards,
Kristin.

OPEN LETTER TO THE MAIL 2.0 CODING TEAM. RSVP.
with thanks to DAVID GIMENO GOST, for answering so many people's posts about all the mail 2.0 bugs.
hi guys,
i love all things apple, and i have done for twenty years.
but with respect, your build of mail 2.0 really could be a lot better.
moving my mail from 1.0 on an ibook g3 running os X 10.3.9, over to mail 2.0 on an intel macbook 1.83 running os X 10.4.7 has been a nightmare.
the discussion boards of many mac sites feature countless cases of people making the move from 1.0 to 2.0, with all their e-mails disappearing.
having spent two weeks reading the knowledge forums, and learning about emailchemy, plus all the complications which, even with that third party program, still exist in moving one's mail over from version 1.0 over to 2.0, are both massive and horrendous.
and that's for me, who has twenty years of finding my way around mac bugs.
but this one is the most difficult i've ever seen, as well as being one of the most widespread problems in a FULL VERSION RELEASE of an apple program, which apple has done nothing to resolve during the six months in which this problem has been widespread in the mac community worldwide.
so thank god for DAVID GIMENO GOST !
i'm amazed that apple still hasn't come up with a patch for moving mail from 1.0 to 2.0.
even now, while i've finally got all my mail back today, 95% is showing as unread, due to the last obstacles in the process, which i can no longer face solving.
i've also lost hundreds of red mail flags during the transfer :o(.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, guys:
we shouldn't need to be buying third party software to move our e-mails from apple mail 1.0 up to apple mail 2.0, and even then be faced by massive hurdles to overcome, which take weeks for someone who at least has SOME idea of what he's doing.
i pity all the people who read the numerous forum posts about how difficult it is to transfer their mail from 1.0 to 2.0, and simply give up on the spot, and have to start their e-mail history TODAY, unable to access their previous e-mail again - potentially now for ever.
because the ironic joke is that we can't even have an access copy of mail 1.0 on our macs to read our old e-mails, unless we hack that program out of the 10.3 cd installation set, which the gurus on your own web site recommend us NOT to do !
so what are we supposed to do, to access our old e-mail, which we can't open, even though YES, it is in our mail folder, and YES, we did full rebuilds of every mail folder, and YES, we trashed our mail preferences first.
e-mail is now at the very center of the average mac user's digital life.
a user's most important program should not require countless hours scrolling through the astonishing number of problems within mail 2.0, which the apple.com discussion boards evidence, with new problems being added every day.
please sort this out, and build a patch, for the sanity of the many people who love apple, but who are unable to access any of their old e-mails.
because i wouldn't wish the last fortnight on anyone else.
RSVP, APPLE.
with best wishes to everyone on the infinity loop,
michael thorne
london, england
[email protected]
ps: if you're a mac user who has been affected by the mail 2.0 disappearing bug, please post a reply to this message, and send me an e-mail to: [email protected], so that we can draw apple's increasing attention to it. thanks.
MacBook1. 1.83 GHz. 512 MB. Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Upgrading from Panther to Tiger. Is it worth it?

Hi there. I have been debating this in my head for quite some time. It is worth upgrading from Panther to Tiger? What are the benefits?
Thanks,
dave

Hi dave!
If you do decide to upgrade, Tiger is available for purchase at The Apple Store (US).
Jaguar and Panther, are no longer available directly from the Apple Online Store, as Tiger 10.4.x is the most up to date OS.
A Full Retail Version of the Tiger Install DVD, can be purchased rather inexpensively, at some online Apple retailers, Amazon, eBay, AppleRescue, (as cornelius mentioned) etc.
Be sure not to purchase grey, upgrade or machine specific CDs or DVDs.
Additional info in these links.
Using OS X Install CDs/DVDs On Multiple Macs
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Additionally,
"Tiger ships on a DVD, but if your Mac doesn’t have a built-in DVD-ROM player, you’ll need CD media. When you buy Mac OS X Tiger, you qualify to purchase Tiger CDs for only $9.95."
Download The Order Form Here. Media Exchange Program
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Upgraded from panther to tiger, now have several problems...help??

Hey guys(and girls)
i recently upgraded my iBook G4 from panther to tiger and am having some problems...first off Airport only get 2 bars...if im lucky. my room is about a good 15 feet from the router, and we are using 802.11G. i put it right next to the router and same. 2 bars. also my other problem is that my iBook tries to open .BIN files in quick time and an error pops up because quick time doesnt support .BIN. any help would be appreciated

Hello Leesa2
If it is Connected then please try to register your device to Wireless provider .
KB00510 How to register a BlackBerry smartphone with the wireless network
Wait till a Registration messages comes in your message box.
After that perform a battery pull restart like this while the device is powered On remove your battery wait for a min. then reinsert it back.
From your BlackBerry Browser Go towww.blackberry.com/integrate then try adding your email account.Please try it and let us know.
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