Paragraphs and Bulleted List

We are trying to format some text in a TextFrame that we add using javascripting (and InDesign Server CS3).
Basically, this is what we would like to achieve:
Some text goes here
* First bullet point
* Second bullet point
* Third etc...
Each line ends with a "\r" - when we iterate through the paragraphs in the TextFrame and apply the formating in this way:
textFrame.paragraphs[textFrame.paragraphs.length-1].bulletsAndNumberingListType = ListType.BULLET_LIST;
We get the following result:
* Some text goes here
* First bullet point
* Second bullet point
* Third etc...
When debugging the script we notice that after setting the ListType.BULLET_LIST on the third paragraph the first paragraph suddenly becomes a bullet point; * Some text goes here...
Are we using the script API in the wrong way?

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Thanks

That's your table structure for the list at the bottom, which will explain the different spacing. The first list is all in one cell.
I see you've got list items in separate cells on other pages too - it's not the most reliable way to do it. Keep your list together and use the margin attribute in your style sheets.

Numbered List and Bulleted List w/ Custom Style Sheet

Hi,
I am a new user to RoboHelp 7, and must say I find it useful
but also painful to use. Currently I’m trying to solve
something that feels like a bug in RoboHelp 7, but before I give in
and accept defeat I wanted to check with the forum.
I have FrameMaker 8, and import the files to RH where I use
them to create WebHelp projects.
Here’s a short procedure:
1. I Import my files with a predefined style sheet matching
the FM styles.
2. I also check the Convert to HTML list option and set all
numbering and bullet styles to User defined.
- After import RH does the usual thing and creates a bunch
of style sheets on its own
3. I select all the files from the Topic List pod and apply a
new custom style sheet. This enables me to have one style sheet for
all the HTML files with the right layout and formatting
4. I generate the output, and RH uses the new style sheet
reference
The resulting HTML files shows that the output is not the
same as the generated HTML shown in RH’s HTML editor view
- Editor view: <li class=”style”>
- Browser view: <li>
6. If I make a change (e.g. add a space) and save the HTML
file, and generate the project again the HTML is correct in the
browser
One could argue that it’s not a big problem; however,
with a large project this is starting to look more like a nightmare
Does anyone know of this problem, and if so can it be fixed?
Kind regards,
Jon

Is this the time when I get really angry at Adobe for creating the worst FrameMaker/RoboHelp integration ever? No! However, I must admit that I'm amazed that they are unable to solve an important feature as conversion of lists from a FrameMaker document to a RoboHelp WebHelp project. When I say conversion I mean a clean conversion with minimal interference from RoboHelp that allows me to use CSS to its full extent.
Here's the problem, and this was also the problem with RoboHelp 7 and FrameMaker 8. BTW, I use standalone versions (not TCS 1 or 2).
Figures: First image depicts FrameMaker 9's Paragraph Designer and the Autonumber format for a paragraph named VizNumbered. Second image depicts the RoboHelp 8's conversion setting.
FrameMaker uses Autonumbering in front of paragraphs to create lists. This means that you in RoboHelp need to manage two formats, the autonumber and the paragraph style.
RoboHelp does of course not (by default) use Autonumbering in front of paragraphs because a RoboHelp WebHelp project is HTML based, and list tags in HTML can perfectly handle any formatting of text etc.
RoboHelp will convert, when "Convert Autonumber to HTML List" is selected, the Autonumber in FrameMaker to a list tag (LI). By default this will generate a list with a lot of margin, font and other CSS properties that tries to simulate the way the list is laid out in the FrameMaker document. In addition to the list tags it will convert the FrameMaker paragraph to a P tag which it inserts within a list tag. The issue you will experience with this is that indentations with the paragraph tag does not align properly between line 1 and 2. At the same time the WebHelp project will not look the same in IE, Firefox or Chrome. That is, Chrome and Firefox will look the same, and IE different. IE has the WYSIWYG feel, but it does not comply well with W3C standards (i.e. using P tags enclosed by LI tags is not a good idea ...).
Selecting "Convert Autonumber to RoboHelp List" does something similar, but is not recommended at all!
So, here's the big question. How can I make sure RoboHelp understands that I ONLY need to define a list tag with a CSS class attribute attached to it?
Today I basically only get the following:
<li><p class=""></p></li> or,
<p class=""></p>
What I want is the following:
<li class=""></li>
Can this be solved with today's versions, can anyone help me, or do I have to wait for the Adobe development team to realize this and to fix it?

XML assign style for numbered and bullet lists

Hi,
This is kinda a continuation from my previous thread. I understand that XSLT has to be used to transform the previous elements to be able to use ID paragraph styles. I would think the same would have to be acoomplished for lists.
Is it possible with paragraph styles to generate the same results as a list in HTML? Or would I have to create individual paragraph styles for each nested list?
I hope I'm making sense.
Like:
<h5>Nested unordered list</h5>
<li1>bullet list</li1>
<li1>bullet list</li1>
<li2>bullet list</li2>
<li2>bullet list</li2>
<li3>bullet list</li3>
<li3>bullet list</li3>
<li4>bullet list</li4>
<li4>bullet list</li4>
Sample HTML:
<h5>Nested unordered list</h5>
<ul>
<li>bullet list</li>
<li>bullet list</li>
<ul>
<li>bullet list</li>
<li>bullet list</li>
<ul>
<li>bullet list</li>
<li>bullet list</li>
<ul>
<li>bullet list</li>
<li>bullet list</li>
</ul>
</ul>
</ul>
</ul>
<h5>Nested ordered list</h5>
<ol>
<li>ordered list</li>
<li>ordered list</li>
<ol type="a">
<li>ordered list</li>
<li>ordered list</li>
<ol type="i">
<li>ordered list</li>
<li>ordered list</li>
<ol type="A">
<li>ordered list</li>
<li>ordered list</li>
<ol type="I">
<li>ordered list</li>
<li>ordered list</li>
</ol>
</ol>
</ol>
</ol>

I think the best way is to create a new paragraph style for each nested level.
Example:
Create a new style for each sub level.
Text here
Text here
Sub level 1
Sub level 1
Thanks...

The bullet list, numbered list and the normal text is not converting when I am converting from RH 9 to MS Word 2010

Hi all,
Greetings for the day
I am created a new CSS in Robohelp 9. I have also created a new template in Word 2010. The style sets for different information elements like (Heading, bullets, body text, ) are more or less same between the CSS and the new templates. I am also able to map the .css styles to Word template when I am converting from RH to Word as I am getting the necessary option in the drop-down list.
However, when the output is generated, the bullet, the numbered list and the body text is not converting at all. The body text works sometimes. However, the numbered list and bullet list is coming out as images.
If anybody knows the solution, I can share the .css and Word template.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Parag Deb

Create a new project with two or three topics containing lists of both types. Generate a printed output that shows the problem. Then zip it up and send it to me. See the Contact page on my site for instructions.
See www.grainge.org for RoboHelp and Authoring tips
@petergrainge

Cannot figure out why my bullet lists aren't correctly aligned

Hello,
I hope someone can help me on this because I'm totally lost. I've spend hours trying to figure out where the problem comes from, reading posts on-line, searching documentation, etc. and I'm getting nowhere. I'm struggling with bulleted lists which just won't aligned correctly with text paragraphs. I would expect the bullet to be horizontally aligned with previous/next paragraphs and the list text to be indented so that the bullet stands out to the left. Kind of almost the default one gets when creating a simple <ul> list without any formatting.
This problem can be seen here. The bullets are outside their div. I've tried using "list-type-position: inside" on <ul> and/or <li>—this gets the bullets back inside the div but then the text isn't properly indented with respect to the bullet.
I assume I've got some CSS precedence problem, but I can't find out where it is. I've validated my code with Dreamweaver CS4 + browser compatibility check. There are some issues left which I'm working on, but as far as I understand they shouldn't be related to this list problem. The only other parts where I'm using unordered lists are the top and side menus, but I've used explicit descendant selectors (I think) to avoid spreading my styling to other elements. Where am I wrong??
I'm still new to HTML/CSS and learning, so be tolerant with my mistakes! I'm aware that I still have got tons to learn.
Emilie

Have you tried giving your ul a left margin with css,
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ul {
margin-left: 1em;
You can also use negative values to move it the other way.
HTH

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I cannot figure out how to create a custom numbered list in Pages 5.0. I had custom LISTS on my 4.3 Docs that did not migrate to 5.0. How do I create duplicate LIST STYLE in 5.0?
Thank you for your help.

On the format menu on the right side, there is the font section, alignment section, spacing section, and bullets & lists section. Next to the bullets & lists section is a drop-down menu of preset lists. At the top-right of this menu is a plus sign. Clicking on this will allow you to create a new list in that menu and title it. From there, you will have to manually create your custom list change the type of bullets (numbers, roman numerals, letters, etc.) -- you might need to click on the disclosure triangle to the left of the bullets & lists title to see this part. When you finish with your custom list, there will be an asterik next to the title of the list, and if you click on that title, the drop-down menu will open up again and you can hit "Update" next to your list name. This should save the style for that custom list. Here is the most important part: When you have finished making this list, make sure you save the document as a template and select that template if you ever want to use that list. I have found that a custom list in a document (saved or deleted) that is not made into a template does not carry over into other documents. Setting up this custom list may take a while, but hopefully it will work and make things easier. I hope this makes sense, and let me know if you cannot understand something. Hopefully this picture will help too.

Unordered and ordered lists

Hi There,
A former FrameMaker 7.1+WebWorks user, I am testing the TCS
for a new project which will include pdfs, online and
context-sensitive help, and training demos. I am very happy with
FrameMaker 8, Acrobat, and Captivate, but when it comes to
RoboHelp, it seems like everytime I touch it I start wishing for
WebWorks. I am using FrameMaker as my authoring tool and importing
into RoboHelp for the help files. When I import the Frame Files, I
map the Frame styles to Robohelp styles and for the most part,
everything looks pretty good, except for my numbered and bulleted
lists. When they import, they import with preformatted tags <pre
class=Style1> blah blah blah </pre>. How do I get the
lists to work? I tried Convert Autonumber to HTML list with no
success, I have also tried not using it, with no success. I get the
feeling that I am missing something blatently obvious, but missing
it all the same. Can somebody point me in the right direction?
Thanks so much!
Peggy

It sounds like you've assigned <pre> to your list tags
in the Content Settings dialog box. To fix this:
1. Open the FrameMaker Document Settings dialog box.
2. Select the Style Settings tab.
In the Style Conversion Frame, click "Select." (This button
is named "Select FrameMaker styles for applying User Defined HTML
tag & Ignore Autonumber properties" -- the kind of label tech
writers hate!).
3. The FrameMaker Styles Conversion Properties dialog box
appears, (eventually). Ensure that the User Defined HTML Tag check
box is cleared for your list tags (and for all tags, unless you
need to use the HTML <pre> tag for preformatted text
somewhere).

Bulleted List Alignment Problem when Importing to RH8

I am imported Word 2003 documents into RH8 and my bullets and numbered lists are not aligning correctly. Both are custom styles configured via Outline Numbering and work fine in Word. After importing, each bullet/number has an extra space on the first line so subsequent lines are not aligned. When I reviewed the CSS, the entries for these styles all have a text-indent of -.25, which I am assuming is wrong since the Word ListContinue styles (which display correctly) do not. I pulled the HTML line out of the CSS but everytime I import again, it is reinserted into my custom CSS.
I have attached a screen capture of what it looks like in RH.
I am relatively new to RH, don't know HTML, and no matter where I turn, no one seems able to help. I can get it to work by putting all bulleted and numbered lists into borderless tables bu we have thousands of pages of Word documents we would have to do this to. There has to be a better solution and it is really driving me crazy with frustration. Please, can anyone help me?
thanks!
Kathi

That small indent is the least of the your worries!
When you import ordinary numbered lists, you need to tick this field in RH's Other settings. (Accessed when you click the Edit button in the Import screens.)
If you do not, then what is imported looks like a list but it is not. If you import the document you sent me and press Enter at the end of the list, you will not get another bullet. When you do select that option, you do get another bullet. But see what it does with the list.
Your settings in Word are below and I suspect the extra indent could be resolved by playing with the Bullet Position and Text Position settings. Also try changing the space after from Tab to Space. Tabs are not an HTML concept.
After import, I selected the list and then clicked the new RH8 icon, Create a MultiLevel list. It gave me a numbered list as that was the style I just randomly selected. It did seem to tidy things up so I think using that also needs exploring.
It's a bit stale now but there is an article on my site about numbered and bulleted lists when exporting to Word. It precedes the new Multi Level list functionality but you will see that the conclusion was to that things only worked easily when using the bullet and number icons and the indent icon. I suspect the same is applying to this import. In Word could you not just click the Bullet icon and then the Indent icon as required, rather then create all these List styles. I set up my Word lists to work that way and although I don't import much, it does seem to work.
I realise that doesn't give you a nice concise solution but hopefully it will help you experiment and find one.
See www.grainge.org for RoboHelp and Authoring tips

My bulleted list displays correctly in IE 8 and Firefox, but not in IE 7

I have a simple bulleted list in a right floated sidebar for a website. If views fine in IE 8 and Firefox, but not in IE 7 (and perhaps earlier, though I only have access to machines with IE 7 and 8.
Because the default indent for the bulleted list moves it too far to the right, I set a negative margin for that area of text in order to move it to the left a little. While it looks great in IE 8 and Firefox, it appears this margin setting is causing the bulleted list to shift too far to the left in at least IE 7. The rest of the copy in the sidebar div lookes fine including the title and paragraph copy.
Can anyone suggest a fix?
Also, I noticed the spacing above the main content div is smaller in IE 7 than with the IE 8 and Firefox. This div has a h1 heading followed by paragraphs. (This site was developed using a pre-existing CSS style sheet from Dreamweaver by the way.)

Strangely when I replied via e-mail my message got garbled when I looked at it here.
I was able to move over the bullet items to the left using your suggestion, however it now shows this line of copy above the page at the top of the window in the IE browser (both IE 7 and IE 8):

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CSS - Specifically bulleted and numbered lists

i am really struggling with the css and the bulleted and number list format.
i have so many questions i do not know where to begin so i will start with what i think should be just plain common sense:
1. i originally imported a css into the robohelp 8 project and have worked for a couple of weeks trying to straighten out the styles with no success
so today i started from scratch creating a new cascading style sheet but i have real questions about what i have created, where i can see it, how i can apply it and how it DOES NOT reflect in the toolbar styles drop down list.
first question:
i have a custom style sheet that clearly shows i have a list style defined called 'bullet1'. i can see the style in my formatting pod (pane) but i do not see it in the styles drop down list on the formatting toolbar. so why are my styles from my CSS not in the styles drop down list on the formatting toolbar and also, when i apply a style (say from the formatting pod/pane) shouldnt the drop down styles list reflect the style name when it is clicked on? For example: i clearly applied the bullet1 style (from the formatting pod/pane) and saved the topic. when i go and click on the bullet1 list, the style drop down on the formatting menu still says (none). no matter what i do, the only style that is reflected in the styles drop down field on the formatting toolbar (when i click on the text) is heading1 and heading2 but other than that, any numbered or bulleted style i create and apply does not show that that style has been applied.
second question:
what is the difference between the formatting pod (Pane) and the styles drop down list on the formatting toolbar? from experience with word, the styles drop down list on the formatting toolbar should reflect the current style when a character or paragraph is selected....it does not here in robohelp.
third question:
why does the style drop down list only show a few styles out of all of the styles that show in my CSS?
forth question:
can i assume that if i have a css created and applied TO ALL topics in the project that the 'formatting' pod/pane will show only those styles from that css? i am very confused on what i am seeing in the formatting pod/pane. are these JUST the custom styles created for a particular style sheet? are these ALL styles available in robohelp?
i am not liking how difficult it is to create a style (specifically bullets and numbers) , apply a style and to view the style that has been applied!
help!
Lori

Hi,
Drop down list shows paragraphs, headings and character styles. Also when you create a class style (.myclass) without a element selector, this style will show in the drop down list.
About lists, please see:
* http://www.grainge.org/pages/authoring/rh8/using_rh8.htm item 25
* http://www.grainge.org/pages/authoring/rh8/rh8_lists.htm
* http://www.wvanweelden.eu/robohelp/lists
If you have any questions or need more help, please post back.
Greet,
Willam

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Hello,
I am using FrameMaker 11 in the Adobe Technical Communication Suite 4 and I need to find a script that will generate a list
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Nonetheless, I had a few minutes to spare, so I worked up the following script that I believe does the job. It is very slow, clunky, and totally non-elegant, but I think it works. It leverages the book error log mechanism which is built in and accessible by scripts, but is spendidly unattractive. I hope this gives you a starting point. It could be made much more beautiful, of course, but such would take lots more time.
Russ
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RH8 conversion (bullet images and numbered lists are different)

Version 8.0.2.208
Conversion of 1200 htm files.
Has anyone experience bullet images in their custom styles changing from RH7 to RH8 and numbers in numbered lists resized?
Bullets
I noticed that all my bullet images have changed. They are OK in Design view, but change when the topics are previewed and generated.
For example, if the style used a small square bullet image, it was changed to the bullet used at the beginning of this sentence.
If I attempt to create a new bullet list in the existing topic using the Normal style (Arial 12) and Formatting Toolbar (Bullets), the bullet and text are changed to (Arial 10) and the style name changes to (none) in Design view. Preview and generated is also Arial 10 for both.
Numbered Lists
Most of the existing converted topics used the Normal style and Formatting Toolbar (Numbers) for numbered lists. There is spacing between each numbered line. The numbers and text are in (Arial 12) in Design view, but the numbers are (Arial 10) when the topics are previewed and generated and the text remains (Arial 12).
If I select the numbered list, click the numbered list icon to turn off numbering, and then click to turn on numbering, the numbers and text are (Arial 10) and the style is changed to (none). Output and preview are (Arial 10). The spacing between the numbered items is deleted.
I have to then highlight that list and change the style back to Normal for (Arial 12) text.
If I attempt to create a new numbered list in the existing topic using the Normal style (Arial 12) and Formatting Toolbar (Bullets), the bullet and text are changed to (Arial 10) and the style name changes to (none) in Design view. Preview and generated is also Arial 10 for both.
This has taken up a lot of my time. Any clues?
Donna

I went to the link you provided.I am still confused as to the step by step procedure to fix my custom bullet style that is used throughout my project. Can you globally fix this issue? It would be too time consuming to figure out where in 1200 topics this style is used. I guess I don't understand list styles.
Custom Style = BulletList
My custom (BulletList) style - Design mode:
Preview mode (incorrect)
Another topic using ths sam (BulletList) style - Preview mode (incorrect should be square bullets)
I select Format > Styles in design mode. Right-click on BulletList, select Edit.
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Donna

Text color changes when more than one color is used in the same paragraph in a bulleted list

I work in a print shop on designers' files preparing them for print. Machine I use is an iMac, plenty of RAM, running Tiger 10.4. Here is my problem: A PC user sent us an InDesign CS3 file. A portion of the text is styled as a bulleted list with character color and bullet (the solid circle) defined as (default) black. However, the style is over-ridden on the bullet and first two words following the bullet with a spot color red, which is present in the Swatches palette (PMS 186). The remainder of the sentence stays black. The text somehow lost this override, and instead of keeping the 2 different colors all the text changed to black. This seems to have occurred when I saved the file on my machine. When I go back and open the original file the text is still colored both red and black. I think that the file was originally an InDesign CS2 file, and could even have been a Indd version 1 or Quark file. Why did the color change with no user intervention? Also, I can't understand why, when the first 2 words are highlighted and changed to red, the bullet also changes to red. (That is good, of course, because that is what we want, but I don't understand how that happens when the character style is black, and I can't even highlight the bullet itself). I sure would appreciate any ideas anyone has on this, I have to try to explain why we printed the text in black when it was supposed to be red and black!

thanks Alan and Bob. Nothing has explained the loss of color so far.
Alan, I will suggest to the designer that she use a nested style. I wonder if that will make the styling more stable moving accross the different platforms.
Bob, I feel like you may have thought, as I did, that hundreds of saves and saved-as and many different applications would have damaged the file, but as you could see by the History, the file was fairly fresh.
There is a very outside chance that I wiped out the style overides by command click but I am really careful and I doubt it.
So I'll thank you both again and check back each day, perhaps this will happen to someone else and become an issue. I have tried to repeat my actions and cause the error again but to no avail.

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