Patched Fonts: Cleartype vs Ubuntu

Hello everyone.
I have a small "aesthetic" issue with both of these patched fonts. Cleartype looks really dodgy and ubuntu fonts look huge. What I'm actually looking for is for exactly the same emulation of msfonts windows7 cleartype on my machine or ubuntu fonts but really smaller than the one's I'm getting.
Any suggestions?

I'm using Infinality with (I think) the default settings. This did seem to help things but code in the Arch wiki now looks awful.
I'm not quite sure about the interaction between the files in /etc/fonts/conf.d and the Infinality config. As I understand it, lower numbered files in the former have priority which means that everything less than 52- trumpts Infinality's config?
10-cfr-antialias.conf@ 20-unhint-small-vera.conf@ 51-local.conf@ 69-unifont.conf@
10-cfr-bcihint.conf@ 29-replace-bitmap-fonts.conf@ 52-infinality.conf@ 70-no-bitmaps.conf@
10-cfr-lcdfilter-default.conf@ 30-metric-aliases.conf@ 57-dejavu-sans-mono.conf@ 80-delicious.conf@
10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf@ 30-urw-aliases.conf@ 57-dejavu-sans.conf@ 90-synthetic.conf@
20-fix-globaladvance.conf@ 40-nonlatin.conf@ 57-dejavu-serif.conf@ README
20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans-mono.conf@ 45-latin.conf@ 60-latin.conf@
20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans.conf@ 49-sansserif.conf@ 65-fonts-persian.conf@
20-unhint-small-dejavu-serif.conf@ 50-user.conf@ 65-nonlatin.conf@
Also, I installed three additional custom config files here in my attempt to follow the Arch wiki but I'm not sure whether I should still have them there with Infinality in the mix. These are all numbered 10- and essentially: enable anti-aliasing; full hinting (I have a note saying this is recommended with the BCI); set lcdfilter to lcddefault. But then I'm not sure what the Infinality settings are doing in this case... Should these more specific tweaks suggested by the wiki be disabled if using Infinality? Or at least the tweaks for anti-aliasing and full hinting? Are these overriding any fonts specific settings given in the higher numbered config files? Or do those take precedence over default settings regardless of place in the configuration file hierarchy?
Last edited by cfr (2012-03-18 21:39:13)

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I only use a WM, and no dpi set in .Xdefaults.or .fonts.conf.
Also using the patched cairo, as you can see in the first comment on that flyspray report.
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I think you have a different interpretation of what it means to "select" or "mark" a font. You cannot do either of those things in the text itself by dragging the text tool -- that selects the text that has been entered. The "selected" font in use will be shown in either the Character or Control panel (as well as in the dropdown for fonts), and it is in one of these palces that you select a font to use as the default. It has nothing to do with selecting text, other than if you want to change the font applied to a particular bit of text you have selected.
Kind of an all-purpose, context-sensitive term.

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I'm just about going to install the Infinality patched font package but I'm not totally sure how to do this since I can't find any good step by step how to anywhere. I don't really feel like doing it without knowing what I'm doing and find myself ruining my font config totally.
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