Performance of large tables with ADT columns

Hello,
We are planning to build a large table ( 1 billion+ rows) with one of the columns being an Advanced Data Type (ADT) column. The ADT column will be based on a TYPE that will have approximately (250 attributes).
We are using Oracle 10g R2
Can you please tell me the following:
1. How will Oracle store the data in the ADT column?
2. Will the entire ADT record fit in one block?
3. Is it still possible to partition a table on an attribute that is part of the ADT?
4. How will the performace be affected if Oracle does a full table scan of such a table?
5. How much space will Oracle take, if any, for storing a NULL in an ADT?
I think we can create indexes on the attribute of the ADT column. Please let me know if this is not true.
Thanks for your help.

I agree with D.Morgan that object type with 250 attributes is doubtful.
I don't like object tables (tables with "row objects") too.
But, your table is a relational table with object column ("column object").
C.J.Date in An introduction to Database Systems (2004, page 885) says:
"... object/relational systems ... are, or should be, basically just relational systems
that support the relational domain concept (i.e., types) properly - in other words, true relational systems,
meaning in particular systems that allow users to define their own types."
1. How will Oracle store the data in the ADT column?...
For some answers see:
“OR(DBMS) or R(DBMS), That is the Question”
http://www.quest-pipelines.com/pipelines/plsql/tips.htm#OCTOBER
and (of course):
"Oracle® Database Application Developer's Guide - Object-Relational Features" 10g Release 2 (10.2)
http://download-uk.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/appdev.102/b14260/adobjadv.htm#i1006903
Regards,
Zlatko

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I think this is very simple but i'm not able to find how to do this. This is my requirement. I need to create a table with n columns and 1 row initially. user should be able to enter data into this table and click of a button should insert data into the data base table. Also there should be a button at the bottom of the table to add 1 row to the table.
I know how to do the insert to database, but can anyone please let me know how to create a table that allows user to enter data and how to create a add 1 row button?
Thanks in Advance!

Raghu,
Go through the ToolBox tutorial Create Page & Advanced table section of OAF Guide.
Step 1 - You require to create EO & a VO based on this EO. This EO will be of DataBase table where you want to insert the data.
Step 2 - Create a Advanced table region. (Refer this Adavanced table section for more on this)
Step 3 - Attach this VO in the BC4J component of Adavanced Table region.
Regards,
Gyan

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