Photoshop and Radiance .hdr format

Hi,
Photoshop does not work properly with Radiance .HDR files:
      Using FORMAT=32-bit_rle_rgbe
1) It ignores PRIMARIES variable on read, always assuming primaries to
be: sRGB with D65 WP (0.640 0.330 0.290 0.600 0.150 0.060 0.3127 0.3290)But according to the spec default WP, if no PRIMARIES is present, is 0.333 0.333 . 2) On write, photoshop never embeds the color profile, which is ok.
The problem is that it makes an assumption about the default WP being 0.3127 0.3290 instead
of 0.333 0.333  again.
     Using FORMAT=32-bit_rle_xyze
1) I'm not quite sure about what causes this:
I converted .HDR (sRGB with D65 PRIMARIES, the only 32-bit_rle_rgbe
format photoshop reads properly)
to xyz with Radiance library, saved it in 32-bit_rle_xyze then I
opened both of them in Photoshop and see some color shift to blue in
the converted xyz file.
Cheers,
http://radsite.lbl.gov/radiance/refer/filefmts.pdf page 30
PRIMARIES
The CIE (x,y) chromaticity coordinates of the three (RGB)
primaries and the white point used to standardize the picture's
color system.  This is used mainly by the ra_xyze program to
convert between color systems.  If no PRIMARIES line
appears, we assume the standard primaries defined in
src/common/color.h, namely "0.640 0.330 0.290
0.600 0.150 0.060 0.333 0.333" for red, green, blue
and white, respectively.

Photoshop uses ICC profiles.  And we can't really translate raw primaries into an ICC profile:  too much information is missing.  So we fall back on the "missing profile" logic in Photoshop as if the file had no profile data.
When we write the file, we give the values specified by the document ICC profile.  Again, we can't translate that to raw primaries -- because again too much information would be lost or missing.    And 0.3333, 0.3333 is almost certainly an incorrect white point (equal energy whitepoint, not matching any useful standard).
When reading and saving XYZ data from radiance .hdr files - we use an XYZ profile.  So far experiments with known image data have rendered correctly in Photoshop.  They may not render correctly in applications that are not fully color managed.

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  • Aperture, Photoshop, and Apple's possible direction for Image Editing

    All,
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    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=253594&tstart=0
    there is one thing that really sticks out on my mind. While all of us photographers have slightly different specifics to our workflow, in general they are very similar. And with respect to Aperture, there is one huge area where most of us seem to be hitting the brick wall: image adjustments, and by extension, image file management. Let me explain what I mean.
    I think it is a fair generalization to say that the vast majority of serious digital photographers are using Photoshop (or some other image editing app, but I'm just going to refer to Photoshop for convenience) for post-processing of some kind. In using Aperture, and figuring out how to fit it into workflow, we've got this situation of how to move from organization and image library management to the full gamut of image adjusting functionality (photoshop) and back again to library management. The need to use photoshop then exposes the issue of how files are stored on the filesystem, etc. Stay with me here...
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    The reason I bring this up is that the answer to this question makes all the difference in what enhancement requests and what people should expect from Aperture now, and in future versions. If Aperture is the primary place for image adjustment, then its obvious that there are some very significant additions that need to take place to Aperture, and likewise, the issue of putting images on the filesystem becomes much less important. However, if Aperture is a workflow-easer, then such image adjustment improvements are minimally important if at all, and filesystem / Photoshop / PSD file integration becomes paramount.
    I know what Aperture does, what features it provides, etc. But I can't help but realize that its not really that clear (or I just don't understand yet) what the full scope of Aperture now and in the future is intended to be, and the forum topics are pretty decent documentation of the fact that the user base at this point is fairly cloudy on that too.
    I can't help thinking that in the midst of the Apple pro line of tools, where we have tools that edit: video, audio, DVD creation, text effects, and now digital photography workflow, that there's one glaring hole: static image editing, i.e. a direct Photoshop competitor. I went through the Aperture video demos before Aperture shipped, and watched these photo pros talk incessantly about how "now there's an app that addresses how I work -- Aperture". That's great, but Apple has to know the role that Photoshop plays in present photography workflow -- for those pros too. So I'm sitting here thinking to myself, why would Apple roll out such a product with some clear workflow hurdles to common Photoshop usage.
    Ok, here's the punchline: does anyone else here have a sneaking suspicion that Apple is not to far off from releasing their own image editing application that's a direct Photoshop competitor? I mean come on, Final Cut Pro, Motion, Sountrack, and by extension of the CEO to Pixar, Renderman. How can you not have a static image adjustment application entering the scene at some point?
    I'm curious what others think. I'm just trying to make sense of how to fit the neat stuff I see in Aperture into a workflow that doesn't play very nicely with Aperture at some points (because I'm using Photoshop).
    Brad
    Powerbook G4-1.33GHz-17" / Powermac G4-1.4GHz   Mac OS X (10.4.2)   PB: 1GB RAM, Radeon 9600-64MB / PM: 1.25GB RAM, Radeon 9000Pro-128MB

    So Apple adds curves adjustments,
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    capability to perform those adjustments selectively,
    etc. Where does it end?
    Actually that could be a good cut-off point - add a few more/better 'global' adjustments but leave all mask, selection and layer based tasks to external editors. Personally, I used to swear by curves, but haven't really touched them in PS for a year since shooting more RAW and learning how to use the shadow/highlight adjustment properly. Sometimes for overall colour for JPEGs, but that bit can be done just as well in levels.
    My workflow isn't particularly typical, but here goes.
    Type of photography - stitched panoramas as a professional, plus general snapshots/nature/landscape as hobby. Single user with no network storage.
    Currently I use a very organised folder structure in the Finder, along with aliases in DragThing docks for easy access to final stitched files, all with their own unique ID. RAW conversions are done in ACR/PSCS2, or Bibble if I'm in a hurry on the laptop. About 40% of the panos are shot in RAW, 40% are bracketed JPEG and the remaining 20% are 'single' JPEG. The panoramas go through quite a lot of post-processing in PS using a whole series of actions and AppleScripts.
    I'm expecting my workflow to look something like this:
    1) Download directly into Aperture, possibly with added help from Automator/Applescript when it comes to proper date-based names.
    2) Divide download into a new album for each panorama.
    2a) If it is a people pano there will be quite a lot of duplicate shots for each panohead position - make a stack for each position and choose picks - this bit will speed things up enormously by itself. Reorder stacks to fit correct order of images going around the scene.
    3) Export to TIFF (sometimes JPEG) and stitch using PTMac (sometimes Realviz Stitcher). Oh, and any people who think Aperture is limited, buggy and bad value should go and look at Stitcher - it costs the same, has a far more limited feature set, is on version 5 and by comparison makes Aperture look bug-free.
    4) Bring stitched panorama into Photoshop to adjust seams through layers if needed, flatten, final tone adjustments (usually using shadow/highlight), possibly some colour tweaks, sharpen. For bracketed shots I will blend together the three exposures at this point using a custom action - this kind of thing is unlikely ever to make it to Aperture.
    5) Bring final print-ready file into Aperture for cataloguing/backup.
    5a) If file is too big for Aperture, make a smaller version for cataloguing and store original file in Finder. This gives me a good file for 90% of purposes, with the huge file available with a bit more work.
    Too big? I've found that Aperture gets sluggish with files over 18-20,000 pixels wide, and chokes totally somewhere between 25,000 and 32,000 pixels wide - 'image format unsupported'.
    To summarise - organise and convert in Aperture, stitch in specialist software, do PS-specific stuff then bring final image back in to join the source images.
    Ian

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