PowerMac G5 (quad) vs Intel Macs?
Hello what would be better? The PowerMac G5 (quad powerpc 2.5ghz) or Intel Mac mini or Intel iMac.
i don't have enough money for a Mac pro, so that's out of the question, but on ebay, the Powermac G5's (with quad processors) are about the same pice as mac mini's and a little cheaper than the iMac's. But would I be better off with an intel Mac or the G5 quad. I'm leaning towards the G5 because I can upgrade two hard drive slots and the RAM to 16gb.
Which is better for gaming, day to day stuff and animation software?
Thanks for the suggestions guys...I know I'm a few months late on the post and for that I apologize. Anyway I purchased a Quad-Core PowerMac G5 on Ebay last week for $600. Here are the specs:
-2.5ghz Powerpc G5 quad-core
-9gb RAM
-1.5 tb HD (1 x 1tb & 1 x 500gb)
-Built-in wifi & bluetooth
-Geforce 6600 w/256 VRAM
I also purchased 12gb RAM on ebay for $124...they're all Kingston so that will be nice. I'm going to max out the RAM and I'm also thinking of Installing a small SSD for my boot/applications drive to speed it up a bit. Anyway I'll keep you posted. Thanks!
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UPDATE: Forgot the mention I already have a DVD Burner compatible with OS X and 3.5inch bays. I would like a Dual Layer, but if its a tower, I can upgrade that anytime.
UPDATE x2: I would also like to mention that I use Gigabit Ethernet so any PowerMac model I choose would have to acomidate that such as the Intel Mac mini does.
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Context Summary:
1. Migration assistants on my old and new macs are not compatible.
2. My older mac has my iTunes library stored on an external firewire disk.
3. Part (but not all) of my iTunes files are also resident/stored on my iPod classic.
4. Finally, I need OS X 10.4.11 on my old mac and cannot upgrade it to OS X10.5.
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Proposed method B: Would my chances for success improve if I used my iPod classic to transfer iTunes files from old Mac to new?
Worst Case Proposal C: I could start from scratch and recreate iTunes playlists and library on new mac.... time consuming proposal but it's possible. (Please don't suggest this proposal unless no other viable choices exist for me.)
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Answer to your iTunes library question: By iTunes Library, I mean my iTunes Media folder only; not the entire /iTunes/folder with iTunes media folder inside.
BTW: Your pointer to ht4889 was very helpful, and sharing the folder, then copying it over firewire interface from old to new mac was most useful.
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