Premiere CS5 AME Export slower than direct export?

Hello everyone,
I am testing premiere cs5 premium, and having some issues with AME export render times.
When I export media to AME it shows about 6hours to render a sequence which is 15min long.
Export settings :
H.264 1280x720 25fps
VBR, 2-Pass, Progressive
Target 8Mbps
Max 10Mbps
Input Squence is directly from AVCHD handycam with native settings no resizing but some simple color correction
However when I do the same export directly from Premiere Pro the render time drops to 38mins (which is btw also not so optimal)
My Hardware Specs:
Intel Core2Quad @ 2,40Ghz
Ram : 8GB (premiere uses 6GB)
Scratchdisk: non raid 1TB with 130Mbps average read/write
(Raw Files on Scratchdisk)
I used to export similar sequences alot faster with cs4 on the same machine..
What could cause this problem?
Thank you in advance for your answers

Thank you for your quick reply, but It couldnt solve the issue..
Harm Millaard wrote:
First of all, the remaining time indication in AME is not very accurate.
well thats also my experience, but after waiting over an hour, it was still below 25% on the scale.. so I paused and switched to direct export
Harm Millaard wrote:
Most of the time and especially with H.264 exports, there is no significant difference between direct export and AME.
Obviously in this case "most of the time" wont apply.. because I did export it directly from within Premiere 6 times faster..
There must be a problem somewhere between AME and PremierePro during reading the squence and rendering it.
Hardware Accelaration is turned on, and I have a supported Cuda Card

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