Premiere Pro CS3: Rendered video issues.

My friend gave me her old copy of CS3, and I've been using it for quite some time now.
About 5 months or so ago I had to format my computer and lost a lot of stuff, after reinstalling premiere pro I got back to work recording my Let's Play videos.
Well when it came to editing everything worked the same. No issues whatsoever. It wasn't until I started rendering them out through Adobe Media Encoder that I started to have problems.
I've been using Fraps to record the gameplay footage, and created the project to match everything that the raw videos had.
Same framerate, size, audio, etc. Same thing with the rendering options in Adobe Media Encoder
I usually split my videos by 10 minutes to keep peoples attention on youtube, and use the uncut stuff for my blip.tv page. I generally stay within a 55 minute window, and those renderings used to work completely normally.
Now when I try to render longer vids (and on occassion I will get the issue with the short 10 minute ones) I will watch the video after rendering and see the audio and video start to desync as time goes on, sometimes the video freezes and the audio continues to play, and some other times the video will go completely black and the audio will continue on. It's very strange, and very aggrivating because it makes me waste more time to render the video again.
My computer deets:
Windows XP pro
AMD athlon II X2: 3.1 Ghz Dualcore
4 GB ram
Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT: 1 Gig VRam

>using Fraps
I don't, but some saved discussions that may help
these notes are for Premiere Elements, but may help with PPro
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/871095
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/943772
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/967201

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YT is set to privet.
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I cannot address the capabilities, or limitations of FCP, as I have never used it.
However, there are several folk here, who have X-platform studios, and some have, and still use, FCP.
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What is a CODEC... a Primer http://forums.adobe.com/thread/546811?tstart=0
What CODEC is INSIDE that file? http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037?tstart=0
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For PC http://www.headbands.com/gspot/ or http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en
IF your files are MJPEG...
MJPEG edit with Morgan or MainConcept http://www.morgan-multimedia.com/
http://www.mainconcept.com/site/prosumer-products-4/motion-jpeg-codec-785/information-797. html

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Also, if it is indeed because the files are too big, how can I get around this problem? I have tried using software such as VirtualDub and SolveigMM Video Splitter to cut the AVI files into smaller parts, but they do not seem to be working. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks a lot!
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Ryan,
For "composite out," only you will need an A-D "bridge" to Capture from that camera. Grass Valley/Canopus offers two really good ones, the ADVC-110 and the ADVC-300. There are others and also PCI A-D capture cards, but the Canopus units get very good reviews.
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Premiere pro cs3 videos übereinanderblenden

Guten Tag alle zusammen!!
Habe mir vor kurzem eine testversion von Adobe premiere pro cs3 heruntergeladen!! jetzt wollte ich fragen ob, und wenn ja, wie es möglich ist zwei Videos übereinander zu blenden?
Vielen dank im voraus!!

Hallo,
schieb die beiden Clips in der Timeline so weit übereinander, daß sie sich für die Dauer der Blende überlappen.
Dann die weiche Blende drüberlegen.
Gruß Wiro

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The readme will also be hosted at http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/premierepro/releasenotes.html.
Dave Helmly has posted about the update on his blog, as well: http://blogs.adobe.com/davtechtable/2008/04/xdcam_and_premiere_32.html#more
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- Adobe Premiere Pro now has presets for HDV 24p. Note: Adobe Premiere Pro does NOT support print to tape in 24p mode.
- Improved handling of MPEG streams (e.g.: HDV video), along with error detection. MPEG stream errors can occur during recording due to tape dropouts, record start/stop glitches, timecode breaks, etc. Bad frames caused by these MPEG stream errors are identified during import/indexing or playback. These frames will play back as full red frames to alert the user that there is a problem in the encoded video at that location. Adobe Premiere Pro will also log error messages to the Events panel, indicating where the error(s) were encountered in the stream. Users can open the Events panel, determine the location of the MPEG stream error, navigate to that location in the clip and take corrective action, such as trimming out the video glitch or covering up the red frames with duplicated good frames copied from before or after the glitch. Note: MPEG files will need to be re-indexed to take advantage of the improvements in Adobe
Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0. For more information, please see Working with MPEG Files.
Notable fixes:
- Titles/Footage no longer show up as offline when reloading saved projects.
- Rendered preview files no longer missing when reloading saved projects.
- Certain filters and/or transitions are now applied correctly when reloading saved projects, until the timeline is forcibly refreshed.
- When exporting via the Adobe Media Encoder, there is no longer a long delay before the progress dialog shows and rendering resums (Mac OS 10.5.x only).
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- Creating an offline clip in the project window then attempting to link it to media on disk no longer results in the application crashing.
- QT PAL movies rendered out of Adobe After Effects® software are no longer incorrectly identified as requiring rendering in a Adobe Premiere Pro PAL project.
- DV Clips of certain specific durations are no longer incorrectly identified on the timeline as requiring rendering.
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- Fixed a bug where exporting to a QuickTime movie (with QT 7.4) would crash the application.
- Selecting "display only exact name matches" when relinking clip no longer crashes on Leopard.
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Harm,
I don't use HDV, so I'm not sure if this is the case or not, but in the top post, there is mention of having to re-index the MPEG files "to take advantage of the improvements in Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 3.2.0." While it seems this should be an automatic process, maybe wiping out the previously-created index files (I seem to remember them being in the Media Cache folder when importing MPG files from DVD rips and such) would let the project open. Or, maybe the old trick of importing an existing project into a new one? Just a couple thoughts...
To the other poster: surely, I don't jest. At least, not when it comes to anything in the video production industry and my operation in it. Long ago, I gave up expecting perfection from any particular piece of hardware or software, and just focused on being creative. That's why I got into this. I refuse to let any piece of equipment dictate what I can or can't do--I just find another way around. Funny how we managed to make it as a species and a civilization as long as we have, and now that computers are here to make our lives easier (*snort*), we're quick to raise our ire about everything that's wrong with them. That's why I will always marvel at things built long ago prior to the advent of all the technology we take for granted today.
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29.97 drop frame
720 x 486 24 Bit
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Sub pixel off Cropping off
Audio:
16 sample
44 / samples / second
2 channel
Export settings are; (These are the settings I was trying the first time that didnt work. All I changed the second time was the aspect ratio to 720 x 480 and the audio sampling rate to 48.)
AVI
Frame rate 29.97
720 x 486
No Compression
Color 24 Bits
Field handling interlaced field order B
Audio:
16 sample
Sampling rate 44
2 channels stereo
Do you recommend compressing the video coming out of Velocity?
There are a couple other options other than No Compression in the export dialogue such as: Microsoft H.263 video codec, Microsoft H.261 video codec. I definitely want to maintain the highest quality possible.
Matrox Axio LE project settings
Editing mode: Matrox NTSC
Timebase: 29.97 fps
Video
Frame Size: 720 x 486
Pixel Aspect Ratio: D1 / DV NTSC (0.9)
Fields: Lower field first
Display: Format 30fps Drop Frame Timecode
Audio: Sample 48,000 Hz
Display: Audio sample
Video Rendering: Maximum bit depth is Unchecked
Previews: File format Matrox uncompressed 8-bit NTSC (tried Matrox uncompressed 10-bit too.)
I think the jerky video might be due to dropping frames but Im not sure.
Any help is greatly appreciated!

While it seems that the field order is consistent, I have seen issues where converting from clips that change field order creates this sort of problem. This is particularly obvious when converting from MJPEG codecs like Meridien or Miro/Pinnacle to DV.
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Premiere Pro CS3 Encoding Error

I'm supporting an end user who has been using Premiere Pro CS3 for years to develop and encode videos on their computer.
Recently, they have been experiencing an issue with one particular project they're been attempting to encode. The project is nothing out of the ordinary, various video and audio files, a little bit of text. They're trying to encode the project down to an MPEG2 format for burning to a DVD.
The problem occurs about 20%-30% through the second pass of rendering. Premiere Pro will give an application error, stating that memory referenced cannot be "written". The program then shuts down and the attached Event Viewer log is written. I've done research, but haven't found any items relating to these errors.
The only major change that I know of on his computer was that Adobe After Effects was installed recently. I don't know the version level of After Effects installed.
Premiere is up-to-date. The user demonstrated the ability to encode other projects, both larger and smaller, without issue. All of the files been used as part of the problem project have been used in the past without issue. I'm having the user deconstruct their project to try to identify any layers or files that may be causing the problem. Rather than go through that tedious tasks, I'm hoping someone has an idea of what's going on.

If the project have captured video, this problem can be caused by defective capture. Frames of captured video can have compression problems even not having any apparent defect when they are showed. Since some compressions are inter frames, the compression can have defects during the capture. the funny is, the appearance of those frames can look like normal (since human eye cant see and scan those thousands/millions of pixels one-by-one and detect which one is defective).When you are about to encoding it, or "trancode" it, the change from a defective compressions to a mpg2 DVD for example make the program crash.
If thats the case, u can check in which frame Prem crashes, get the clip to AE and re-export it to a completely diferent format and compression, them replace the Premiere clip by the new one.
o/

Audio balance greatly different in Encore CS3 after encoding 5.1 master track in Premiere Pro CS3

Hello! I'm wondering if anyone can offer some advice for my DVD audio problem.
I have a Premiere Pro CS3 project with a 5.1 master track that appears to behave correctly judging by the meters when I play it in PP. It also sounds reasonable (in a mixed-down fashion, I guess) on my PC system's speakers (L,R,LFE), and all rebalancing and panning seems to work well. However, once I export the master track to Encore using PP's SurCode Dolby Digital codec, the resulting audio mix is totally off. Here's what I get: both front channels play mainly out of the right front and center speakers, and the rear channels play mainly out of the left front speaker. I've tried all different settings, but I can't seem to change this. Well I've read that Encore just sends the audio mix straight through (the DVD trancode status is "Don't transcode"), but when I build the DVD and play it on both of my 5.1 surround systems, the results are just as bad as what my desktop PC speakers were hinting at. [Actually all DVDs that Encore builds are UNSUPPORTED on one of my set-top DVD players and they're both Panasonic! So first, I first have to copy the DVD using Nero and then the copy is accepted by all. That seems to have no bearing on my audio dilemma but I thought I'd mention it. I would love to know what Nero is doing right that Encore is doing wrong!)
Anyway, here's some background: I began to notice this problem with the audio balancing whenever a .wav music source is imported into PP as a stereo source. [A side issue here - I don't seem to be able to explain - or control - how one .wav file gets imported as stereo while another is imported as 5.1!] Anyway, as one would expect, since my master track is 5.1, the stereo track is automatically set up with a rebalancing tray with the puck set in the middle. The meters show that the source is stereo and the sound has been rebalanced across the master track. If I drag the puck around, the master meters behave accordingly. Then I import my video (.avi video clip) and that sound is imported as a stereo track. For that track, I drag the puck to the rear. Again, the master meters respond correctly. So far so good. But when I export to Encore, the resulting audio mix so completely wrong it can't even be explained as a 5.1-to-stereo downmix situation. The sounds that were supposed to come out of the rear channels are in front left and center (and deafening), overpowering the music that is only coming out of front right. And the rear speakers are silent unless I turn on Pro-Logic on my amplifier, which just confuses the issue. I didn't bother to check LFE as things were bad enough.
Where I DO NOT have the problem is when the audio file is imported as a 5.1 source (although it is just a stereo CD track ripped using Sony CD Architect). In that case, there is no rebalancing tray and the track meter shows only the L and R channels active, as expected. Ditto for the master track. Now if I go ahead and send the music to a stereo submix track and let that rebalance to the master, I see all channels active. But that results in the problem above after exporting to Adobe Media Encoder using SurCode and then importing the audio into Encore. If I don't remix to 5.1, the audio on the DVD is OK. But I would like to have the music come out of all speakers when there isn't a video soundtrack as there are many still pictures in the presentation.
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Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Doug Herbst
Holmdel NJ

Problem solved everyone!!!
Rebecca of Adobe support helped me identify the root cause: project was originally set up as standard (2-channel) and although it had evolved to a 5.1 project over time, it could never grow up to be anything other than a standard audio project. After you set up the new project, the setting that controls your audio is buried in the project somewhere. Changing your project settings to set up new 5.1 audio tracks for new timelines does NOT make the project 5.1! The real audio identity attribute set at birth is not alterable OR EVEN VISIBLE (even as a grayed-out project setting) although PP will allow you to set up and mix 5.1 audio tracks at will. So you may think you're working on a 5.1 project now, but you're only fooling yourself and PP goes right along with it. Even the .ac3 files you create via export are 5.1! But dare to build your DVD in Encore and all of your timelines are transcoded back to 2.0 instantly. Resistance is futile.
A new feature in PP CS4 will allow you to view, and even CHANGE, your project's audio identify from standard to 5.1. How sweet!
Well, I've devised a way to dig out myself out of this deep hole in CS3 and it worked, but I can't promise that it will work for everyone. (This assumes you own the Dolby Digital 5.1 codec from Minnetonka.)
1. Create a new Premiere Pro project as 5.1 audio from the get-go.
2. Import your suspected 2.0 project into this new 5.1 project and click each sequence to flesh out the timeline.
3. Re-export all audio as elemental streams using Adobe Media Encoder. Make sure you export the audio component of each timeline as Dolby Digital 5.1 and exactly - and I mean EXACTLY - the same way. To deviate the audio settings for each timeline is to ask for trouble, so I recommend setting up an audio pre-set that you can just click when you need it.
4. Create a new Encore project and import all original video assets and your new replaced and, hopefully, 5.1 audio assets into it.
5. In Encore, create a separate timeline for each pair of assets (.m2v and .ac3 for example). DO NOT ATTEMPT TO PLACE MULTIPLE PAIRS OF ASSETS ON THE SAME TIMELINE! For some unexplained reason, the build process will transcode the audio back to 2.0, and if you continue pack new 5.1 audio assets on the same timeline, you will get an error message "an input contract violation has occurred" because you now have 2.0 and 5.1 assets on the same timeline, even though you really don't know that and didn't ask for that to happen anyway. (Thanks to Bill Hunt who mentioned his habit of keeping the asset pairs on separate timelines in another thread - that suggestion was absolutely essential to the solution here.)
6. In Encore, check to make sure that all of your original video sychs up correctly with the new, true 5.1 audio. Link the end actions of each timeline with the next timeline to play in the correct sequence. Check your project for orphan timelines and other errors. Then, before you start building menus and start getting fancy, build a DVD and make sure it plays as 5.1 on your system.
Tip #1: while you're re-exporting and replacing the audio files, don't have Encore running. I've seen it gracefully and automatically re-import the replaced file once the export is done, but I have also seen it choke with the terribly descriptive "Encore has encountered a problem" message upon discovered the asset is not available while it is being replaced. Encore then continues to mark the asset as offline.
Tip #2: when re-exporting and replacing files, always select audio and video separately. For some reason, Encore will allow you to replace an .ac3 file when you perform an elemental audio export, but when you try to combine video and audio and both files exist, Encore will prompt you to replace the video, but immediately abort with an error that it cannot replace the .ac3 file, thus forcing you to delete the .ac3 component manually before trying again.
Doug

Premiere Pro CS3: Rendered video issues.

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