Preview new DNG files in CS3 Bridge

Hi All,
I have Bridge CS3. It previews existing DNG files just fine, but when I drop new DNG files in the folder - while bridge is running - they show up as just icons - no preview. I have to wipe the cache and restart bridge in order to see the pictures.
It'd be useful to just drop the files in a folder, and they would be immediately availble for preview in bridge.
Any suggestions?
thanks

thanks for the quick reply.
Click on another folder, and then back - no change.
Purge cache - Tools->Cache->Purcge Cache for folder "test"
Local folder on C drive hard disk.
Press f5/refresh - no change.
JPG files work file
Same thing happens with PSD files, but purging the cache works.
Only thing that works is for me to purge the cache and restart bridge.
My Camera can only output DNG or PEF raw files. Bridge does not even recognize PEF files.

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I use the free Adobe DNG Converter vers. 8.1 der supporter mit Panasonic DMC-LF1. I just downloaded this version and now am able to open my Panasonic DNGs in Lightroom, but not in CS3. There are no problems opening my Nikon DNGs in both programs.
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Re: Cannot open DNG files in CS3 or Lightroom?
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As far as I know DNG is supposed to be standardised format. What are you using to convert the RAW files to DNG?
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A rather involved method, David.
I am sure it works, and compliments for figuring it out, but I think one critical step is missing in your workflow: Before you begin - backup, backup, backup!
And I think, all the edits in your database that you are doing so diligently, is what you bought Aperture for to do for you, why do it yourself?
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It may take a little longer than your method, but this way all edits in the library are done by Aperture, and I am protected from accidental slips when editing the property list files. That requires a very careful work.
Patching the database files inside the library may be justified as a last ressort, when you need to fix and recue a broken Aperture library, and none of the provided tools is working, but not as a routine operation to do batch conversion of image files. It is very error prone. One wrong entry in the library files and your Aperture Library may be unreadable.
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