Problems Moving to New Drive For Time Machine Backups

I'm moving to a new, bigger drive for my TM backups. So with the help of some suggestions here, I:
1. Turned off Time Machine
2. Formatted the new drive with "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)"
3. Cloned the old drive to the new with SuperDuper (Erase and copy)
4. Turned on TM and told it to use the new drive (with a different name than the old one) as the backup drive.
That was twenty minutes ago. TM backups usually take a couple of minutes. The only time it went this long is when it was doing its first backup. Is that what's happening? I've still got the folder structure you'd expect -- with a new folder for the backup going on now.
In addition, the clone took forever -- five hours for 120 GB over Firewire 800. It seemed to slow down as it went on, too.
Does anybody have any suggestions? Should I stop the current backup and try something different?
Thanks very much to anybody who can help,
Steve

Steve Cohen4 wrote:
Cool. A "deep traversal." Sounds like something you do when you make the jump to lightspeed.
Anyway, I did let it finish and everything seems to be normal now. The next backup took just two minutes. Much better.
Thanks very much for your help.
I trust that you have no issues with the procedure I used?
not sure which procedure you mean but you should be fine now.
Steve

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bvasel900 wrote:
Hi, and welcome to the forums.
I have been using Time Machine for almost a year and the external drive I'm using is almost full. Can I switch to a second external drive?
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Thanks Pondini for your responses - perhaps you could add this tip to your website?
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