Producer consumer architecture functionality
I was wondering if the consumer loop in a producer consumer architecture only works when the producer loop sends something to it, or is it always working, even if it doesn't receive anything from the producer loop?
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In a "pure" producer/consumer, there is no timeout on the queue. So as long as there is no data waiting in the queue, the Dequeue Element will "sleep" until the is data available.
As Greg stated, if you have a timeout, then the Dequeue Element will "sleep" until the timeout is reached (assuming no data is available during the timeout time). There is an output of the Dequeue Element that will tell you if it did timeout. This is sometimes useful if you want to pull an instrument every so often or keep an ethernet port active. But that is getting more into the Queued Message Handler than a Producer/Consumer.
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Hello,
I am currently working with two instruments; an Agilent E3646A and an NI 6212 BNC. My objective is to have the 6212 to be continuously taking measurements according to predefined parameters while the E3646A's parameters can be continuously updated. This simple instrument combination is intended to help me learn the necessarry achitecture; continuous measurement, dynamic output control, and more instruments will be added in the future.
I've previously posted on a similar, but more complicated, setup (http://forums.ni.com/t5/Instrument-Control-GPIB-Serial/Split-second-lag-when-controlling-two-instrum... and was advised to try the Producer Consumer Architecture. I've found relevant literature on the site (http://www.ni.com/white-paper/3023/en/, https://decibel.ni.com/content/docs/DOC-2431), searched the forums and constructed my own VI. While my first attempt at a Producer Consumer Architecture has resolved some of the issues I was having when I first posted on the subject, however, new issues have arisen with regard to reading and stopping the VI.
I am currently able to run the VI and update the device parameters. Previously, I would get a freeze while the instrument was being updated and could not toggle parameters until it was done. This has been resolved although the read only updates when a parameter has been updated although it is outside of the event structure. Furthermore the Stop button does not work in any context. I've also gotten occasional errors regarding the Deqeue Element but the bulk of the trouble is Error -200279 "Attempted to read samples that are no longer available" at DAQmx Read. I realize that there is a problem in my Producer Loop but haven't been able to figure out how to resolve it.
This is my first attempt at a Producer Consumer Architecture and already I can see that it is a powerful tool. I read as much as I could and looked at the relevant examples but expected to have some issues in the beginning. Would really appreciate any advice so I can take full advantage of the architecture.
Hope to hear from you,
Yusif Nurizade
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Thank you for the response and the suggestions.
I created the Local Variable for the Stop Button and moved the original into its own Event Case. It is now able to stop VI execution although I get Warning -1073676294 which I understand to be the buffer issue. The warning says that this was incurred on VISA Open for the E3646A's Initialize VI which is outside both loops, however, which I don't understand.
I tried increasing buffer size by decreasing the Number of Samples as per suggestions I found on NI forum threads. I've brought it down as low as 1 but the graph still only updates when an Event occurs and I keep getting the same buffer error. You suggested that the problem could be that they are in the same loop; does this mean that the DAQmx read should be outside both Producer and Consumer Loops or moved into the Consumer Loop? I found a couple of links ( http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW/Producer-Consumer-Design-Pattern-DAQmx-Event-Structure/td-p/2744450 , http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW/Producer-Consumer-Architecture/td-p/494883 -first response) on dealing with an Event Structure that my own VI is based. Alternatively, I found another link ( http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW/Producer-Consumer-Design-Pattern-DAQmx-Event-Structure/td-p/2744450 - first response) on a DAQmx Read with an Event Structure that places the graph in the Consumer Loop.
The core of my purpose in setting up this Producer Consumer Architecture is so that I could read continuously while the instrument parameters are updated dynamically so it's very important that I understand how this works. I am particularly struggling with how the Event Structure is controlling the While Loop's Execution.
Hope to hear form you,
Yusif Nurizade
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I want to add one Continuous function in Producer consumer event??
Hello,
producer consumer event vi is base example for me ,I have design my system according to it.
Now I am dealing with photo sensor in that its measure continuous data according to intensity of light,for continuous function I have make while structure for photo sensor but the problem is that I don't know how to add this while loop in producer consumer event ,if I add then its run continuously and then my operation is stuck there.
Will you please guide me that how can I add this continuous function in this structure so simultaneously I can do other function like pause reset..Etc...
Here in attachment I have attaché one example regarding to this in that I have add simply increment function in case structure and when I execute my vi then execution is stuck at while loop until it manually stop.
Thank you very much...
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I made a simple example with a UI queue and a second producer which is pushing data into its own consumer, displaying the signal and its spectrum.
Maybe this is what u need.
Marco Brauner NIG
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How to change the transmission rate of data flow in producer/ consumer pattern
Hi All
I am new to labview and trying to design a application to transfer image data in different rates, that means I can change the transfer rate in the transmission process. In fact,I refer to the the Queue Basic.vi to achieve this function by Changing the delay value of dequeue and enqueue.The program is divided into three parts:
The first part is the sender in vc used to split and send image data.Data size is 226kb and each time we send a 1kb packet;
The second is labview rate-change part，use producer/ consumer pattern and queue to transfer data;
The third one is the receiver in vc,receive data in sequence and synthetic images.
The entire transfer process is: image data was sent from the sender to producer loop through DLL, then enqueue--dequeue in consumer loop--DLL--receiver.The sleep time in vc sender is equal to the delay value in producer loop and this makes it look like the data generated as in the loop.
Now this is where my dilemma is：
When transferring data, if the producer loop and consumer loop delay value are equal(both 20ms), I can see image synthesis at a constant speed and no data lose; if I change the consumer loop delay value and make it greater than the producer delay(one is still 20ms and another is 50ms),that means receive in a lower rate and store data in queue. I can see Elements in Queue
increase but the image data randomly lost, and the image synthesis speed is not reduced.
My question is why image data loss and I can't see the image synthesis speed reduced when change the delay value in consumer loop?
Do anyone know how to solve the problem? Are there any examples I can refer to? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
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I don't have '/usr/lib/modules/3.17.3-1-ARCH/build/Documentation/VGA-softcursor.txt' on my file system. Does it contain the info about changing the blinking speed?
P.S. The other two links I found yet before starting this thread. I only found in them the recommendations about changing "the color and shape of the cursor and turning blinking on/off" (as I mentioned in the original question). Did I miss the info about the blinking speed?
PPS: I found the vga-softcursor.txt here: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentatio … cursor.txt
But that file doesn't tell about changing the blink rate either.
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Running subVI in parallel with itself using producer-consumer pattern
I'm using the procuder-consumer pattern to create what I call threads in response to various events much like in Producer Consumer with Event Structure and Queues
I have several physical instruments, and would like to run the exact
same test in parallel on each of the instruments. I have a subVI
that takes as inputs a VISA resource and a few control references among
other things and then performs the desired experiment. I have a
separate consumer loop for each physical instrument, with this subVI
inside each consumer loop.
My test VI worked great; each consumer loop was a simple while loop
incrementing a numeric indicator (not using my real subVI above).
However, my real program can only run one consumer loop at a time much
to my dismay. Reworking my simple test VI to use a subVI to
increment the indicator rather than just explicitly coding everything
resulted in the same problem: only a single consumer loop ran at a time
(and as I stopped the running loop, another would get a chance to
begin). The subVI in this case was extremely
simple taking only a ref to the indicator and a ref to a boolean to
stop, and incrementing the indicator in a while-loop.
Is there a way around this? Now that I've spent the time making a
nice subVI to do the entire experiment on on the physical instrument, I
thought it would be fairly trivial to extend this to control multiple
instruments performing the same experiment in parallel. It seems
only one instance of a given subVI may run at one time. Is this
true? If it is indeed true, what other options do I have? I
have little desire to recode my subVI to manually handle multiple
physical instruments; this would also result in a loss of functionality
as all parallel experiments would run more or less in lock step without
much more complexity.
Thank you.You need to make your subvi reentrant. Then it can run several instances at any time with each instance occupying its own unique memory space. Click on File - VI Properties - Execution, and check the reentry execution checkbox. Then save the vi.
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Producer/Consumer Design Pattern with Classes
I'm starting a new project which involves acquiring data from various pieces of equipment using a GPIB port. I thought this would be a good time to start using Classes. I created a GPIB class which contains member data of: Address, Open State, Error; with member vis such as Set Address, Get Address, Open, Close...general actions that all GPIB devices need to do. I then created a child class for a specific instrument (Agilent N1912 Power Meter for this example) which inherits from the GPIB class but also adds member data such as Channel A power and Channel B power and the associated Member Functions to obtain the data from the hardware. This went fine and I created a Test vi for verfication utilizing a typical Event Structure architecture.
However, in other applications (without classes) I typically use the Producer/Consumer Design Pattern with Event Structure so that the main loop is not delayed by any hardware interaction. My queue data is a cluster of an "action" enum and a variant to pass data. Is it OK to use this pattern with classes? I created a vi and it works fine and attached is a png (of 1 case) of it.
Are there any problems doing it this way?
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I'm starting a new project which involves acquiring data from various pieces of equipment using a GPIB port. I thought this would be a good time to start using Classes. I created a GPIB class which contains member data of: Address, Open State, Error; with member vis such as Set Address, Get Address, Open, Close...general actions that all GPIB devices need to do. I then created a child class for a specific instrument (Agilent N1912 Power Meter for this example) which inherits from the GPIB class but also adds member data such as Channel A power and Channel B power and the associated Member Functions to obtain the data from the hardware. This went fine and I created a Test vi for verfication utilizing a typical Event Structure architecture.
However, in other applications (without classes) I typically use the Producer/Consumer Design Pattern with Event Structure so that the main loop is not delayed by any hardware interaction. My queue data is a cluster of an "action" enum and a variant to pass data. Is it OK to use this pattern with classes? I created a vi and it works fine and attached is a png (of 1 case) of it.
Are there any problems doing it this way?
Including the error cluster as part of the private data is something I have never seen done and ... well I'll have to think about that one.
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Producer consumer vs state machine
Hi there,
I have been on and around for quite a while to understand how can I re-design an application, which was originally built using a mix of sequence structure, while loops and event structures. And now I am making a newer version of the same application, for research purposes, while learning the LabVIEW techniques. Earlier I used LabVIEW versions 5 and 6 to make simple programs for fuzzy logic and neural networks. And that's not a good reference.
Ok, after learning that Producer Consumer (PC) and Standard State Machines (SSM or SM) are two new approaches for a better (scalable, flexible and efficient) coding as suggest by veterans, in one thread where I asked about another issue, I have started digging into this topic and now I am on a point where I have to implement it finally (spent pretty much time in the learning phase).
I have several questions.
To start the discussion, I would give a brief description of my application.
It's a networked application, where the network communication happens using DataSocket (one reason to use LabVIEW as the environment).
We are talking about the client application, which communicates with other applications on remote computer, via Internet.
User interface involves a tab control, with several pages-
On startup, the controls/indicators (now onwards referred as controls only), are initialized, datasocket connection is checked (rather internet is checked, and a connection established with the remote datasocket server) (page 1)
If connected to the datasocket server, the user selects Login/Registration (page 2)
Login and/or Registration happen on page 3/4
Then the user sees a table of remote users to connect to (page 5)
Upon selection of a remote user, and after clicking on "connect", the user will see a video indicator, with a lot of other controls. (page 6)
On this page with video indicator and controls, the user has a lot of activities, in which many messages are sent and received to/from the remote machine.
the user may disconnect and go back to page 5, and log out and go back to page 2 and so on.
I hope this is clear.
I have thought about two different ways to do this application. Using PS or by SSM.
In the attachments, I have given a diagram (with errors, of course, because of unlinked controls), for each of the approach, plus the original application's diagram.
I hope this is sufficient for anybody to understand my case and give suggestions.
I am looking for suggestions about which is a better model for my type of case. I have been to discussions like this one and saw that there are many issues regarding dequeue in PC model. So I am curious to know if SSM is a better and latest model or it's more primitive? Which looks better for my application's performance?
Thanks ahead!
Vaibhav
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Thanks. Any suggestion how can I start and stop that loop in parallel with other loops? Like, if some event occurs, the loop should start execution, and keep on moving, while other events are being traced and executed.
In those examples where you had a while loop inside a case structure, that bit of code will only execute one time. It will immediately read the boolean at the start of the program, if the value was true before the porgram started, then the while loop will run. Once that while loop stops, the case structure will end. It will never execute again unless you completely stop and restart your program. If the boolean is false before the program starts, the false case will execute immediately. Nothing happens since it is empty and it is done, never to run again (unless you stop and restart your VI) You should turn the structure around. Put the case structure in the while loop. Make sure you put a small wait statement in the loop so that it doesn't run full speed eating up CPU cycles just polling the status of the boolean.
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Thanks for the detailed comment.
One thing I would clarify. The user will not be able to switch between the pages using the tab control. The program will direct appropriate page to the user. I kept the tabs visible just for your idea of the pages. Sorry, I didn't mention that.
Do you think it's still a bad design?
If the tabs will be hidden or disabled, you will probably be okay. I wouldn't call it a bad design. I wouldn't do it that way. But as long as you understand the possibility of problems and prevent that. Especially some time down the road when you modify the program in some other way that could lead to a problem because you forgot about the dependencies of the event structures on the state of the state machine.
Yes, I agree about only one event structure to handle all the events. But since the user will not be able to click somewhere else, other than those possible controls, I thought to keep it like this.
I thought the events are captured only if we are in that case. I think I am wrong, right? Events are captured at any time, even if the case has never executed before, or will never execute. Ok, The events will be captured, but will not be executed until in that case.
And that's the reason why I have two separate event structures, in two separate phases of the program.
Because, prior to page 6, the events will occur sequencially. The user will click somewhere, then some message will be transmitted over DataSocket, then some message may come , then again some user action and so on. But, when the user starts using page 6, there will be parallel process of user controls events and actions, and incoming messages and corresponding actions. For this, in the page 6, I need a different kind of execution. So I separated the two event structures.
At first I thought to have SSM, and then I thought to PC, just because I can have two separate parallel processes - one for user events, and another for messages (because that way I can take maximum advantage of message tracking). But looking at other complexities, I find SSM more appropriate. Can you please tell me how can I have my message loop and events loop parallel to each other and just one event structure?
You can have a dequeue function in your state machine loop and have it be a consumer loop. Use a timeout on the Dequeue. If there is a timeout, have the statemachine execute normally after that perhaps just passing the enum wire straight into the case structure of the state machine. If it doesn't timeout meaning you got a message, then look at the message that is dequeued and act on it. Perhaps it means ignoring the enum coming in from the shift register and changing the enum to something else to feed into the case structure of the state machine. Attached is an example
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Producer/consumer w/ScanEngine issue
All,
I have a large VI implemented with producer/consumer architecture using 10 events and uses conditional disables to select the data acquisition hardware. The application is being developed in LV2009 with FPGA & RT on XP. The application is intended to acquire and control analog signals in a cRIO-9073, but early development is done using LV simulated signals. I can switch back/forth between the different configurations quickly & easily. In the simulation mode, the front panel, controls, events, etc; all behave as one would expect. When the conditional disable is changed to use ScanEngine and cRIO modules, then a very primary control fails to generate an event and does not function. All other controls that can be tested are functional and generate their events. I am at a loss and seeking suggestions on techniques to diagnose & fix the problem. The application behaves as if the 'event structure' for primary control gets corrupted or some size threshold is been exceeded. The whole concept, scanEngine based and simulated data, were functioning several days ago prior to numeruous edits and I can revert back to not using the scan engine and cRIO hardware with simulated data to validate correct function, but that is not the intended final path. At the present time, I am stuck and looking for ideas. All suggestions will be considered and appreciated. The applicatiion is company proprietary and can't be posted. Thanks in advance.I can definitely understand your confusion, and on the surface it seems like everything should transfer over. However, when using simulated data you won't get errors that can occur once you introduce hardware. Errors can prevent events from occuring, there is also the issue of timing, to see if when using actual hardware, the timing causes issues. As I menationed before, there are a hundred different reasons why it would work with simulated data, but not actual hardware. Please let me know if you need further direction in your troubleshooting.
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Hi all,
I'm creating my first producer-consumer program, and I've run into a few problems. I have two producer loops (one is a pressure controller and the other is power reading loop). I've used queues to pass data into the consumer loop which records the data (at a much slower rate). The problem is that the producer loop (the pressure controller) contains the stop signal for the program. So I've had problems shutting down all 3 loops.
My questions are......Do I have to shut down the consumer loop first, then the producers? What is the best way to pass stop signals (local variables, booleans in a queue, etc)? Also when I try to use the producer loop to stop the other loops I get the attached error. Anyone have any recommendations for making an efficient stopping procedure? The wait inside the consumer loop is quite long (5 min), so I'd like the minimize the stopping time, if possible.
I've attached two versions that I've been working with. They use version 8.5.
Thanks in advance - Dan
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error.JPG 19 KBI like to stop the program in the producer loop, and wire the error output of the dequeue element function to the stop of the consumer loop (when the producer loop stops the dequeue element function will generate an error, the error out will cary this to the stop and the loop will stop). Hope this helps!
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Producer/consumer architecture - timing
Hello.
I have some question about producer consumer pattern.
People say that consumer shound NOT add elements into producer queue. Lets say that some states in in consumer need to stay active for eg 5 minutes. We also should be able to pause/resume state execution and exit program in any time.
I ve used functional global timer but consumer adds elements into queue and this should be avoided.
How to solve timing problem? Some people have written about creating another thread - watchdog or asynchornous calls to vi...
Could someone explain this to me? :People have consumers add to their own queue all the time. It is usually in a Queued State Machine though. If you have a process that just needs to run for so long, then have the consumer run another while loop until the time is up. It can then process the next item in the queue.
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Producer Consumer with a state machine within the consumer
Hi All,
I have been trying to develop a data acquisition system with the producer consumer architecture. To the left of the two main loops I initialize the serial port and any constants and variables im using. I also have an obtain queue VI needed for enqueue and dequeue. Then in the producer loop i have a state machine. The first state is where I wait for a button press on the front panel to write a GO signal on the serial line which will tell the device connected to the serial port to begin sampling data. After this button press I go into the next state which is called my read state.
In the read state I use a property node to read all of the available bytes at the serial port and then enqueue this collected data into a queue. The state machine then is directed to continously go to the read state again and collect more data.
Now this is where my dilemma is...... The consumer loop has the dequeue VI inside it and after this VI i have a state machine (while loop and case structure) which contains the following states
1. Build Array - build an array from the dequeue element and if there is any left over data from the parsing states it will build an array with the left over data and the dequeued data
2. Determine packet type - this state looks for the packet type byte(not necessarily the first byte in the message) and also check the next byte (packet length) to ensure that I am at the begininng of this chunk of data. This state may be a little slow because there can be three different packet types and based on this byte and the packet length it may have to search the array several time to find the valid starting point. This state also determine the next state to go to based on the packet type.
3 packet type 1 parsing - parse data and store the remaining data it leftOver array. Go to exit state.
4 packet type 2 parsing - "" ""
5 packet type 3 parsing - "" ""
6 exit - leave this state machine and fall back to the consumer while loop.
After it exit I think it should fall back to the consumer while loop and dequeue more data and enter the state machine again to build a new array with the dequeued data and leftover data. It seems to work when I trace the execution using the Highlight execution feature, however when I run this all at full speed, it seems to go into the consumers 1st and 2nd states back and forth and not completely go through the state machine.
I tried adding in a delay in the producer loop to give the consumer loop time, but I didnt notice any difference. Is it possible that my dequeue element is retreiving more data while im still in the state machine, causing the execution to leave the state machine before it finished all states?
Is there a better approach to take to solve this problem. Basically I need to read data at a 1,000,000 baudrate and parse it as quickly as possible so that I can break it up into 3 different packet types, write the data to a file, and graph the actual data (header info removed) in realtime. I need to also ensure that I am not losing any of the collected data. Data loss cannnot occur.A couple of things more to go along with Ben's pointers:
You convert your data from a string, to a U8 array, to a Hex string array in the producer loop, then convert back to a integer to determine what to do with it. In the process, you create two or three copies of your data, slowing yourself down quite a bit. The code would be quite a bit more efficient if you left the data as a U8 array. You can change the format of the controls and indicators to show hex values instead of integer by right clicking on them and selecting Format and Precision...
Your search code is fairly inefficient. I made a whack at making it a bit better. See attachment below.
If you continue to run into race conditions, you can debug them using a calls to the Windows debug write sprinkled liberally about your code. Check out the post here for more information.
Don't let your lack of format LabVIEW training stop you. The biggest thing to get is the data flow paradigm (aka data is wires, not registers). Once you get past that and learn how to pass data around using shift registers, queues, events, etc, you are most of the way to mastering LabVIEW. The rest is just learning the plethora of functionality LabVIEW gives you (yes, I have reimplemented LabVIEW native code more than once in the process of learning).
Let us know if you need more help.
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Producer-consumer: optimize data acquistion rate
I have a producer-consumer type of application in which one loop continuously reads data from the card and queues it and another loops reads/saves data. Additionaly one more loop plots the data. The number of channels and real-time analysis is defined by the user so the time it would take to save, display, and analyze each block (one iteration of Analog/Digital Read) of data may vary for different settings.
Currently I am setting the "number of samples to get" large enough on the Analog/Digital Read at the start so I don't get queue overflow. Now I would like to adjust it automatically while the program is running so I don't get any queue overflow and at the same time the data is not display in huge chunks at a time. Has anyone done this sort of thing before? Right now the only idea I have is to read the # of elements in the queue continuously and use some mathematical formula to increase or decrease # of samples.
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Reading the number of elements in the queue continuously and using a mathematical formula to increase or decrease the number of samples would be a great method. You could also use the Decimate 1D Array Function to display a smaller grouping of your data if your issue is that you don't want to display huge chunks of data at time.
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Producer/consumer architecture over network variables with Real-Time target.
Hi all,
I am maintaining a producer/consumer data acquisition program to be deployed on a real-time target. The main code is deployed to and run on the real-time target during experiments, but was having trouble because the program was originally designed to write all experimental data to disk on the real time during acquisition, which puts the whole experiment at the mercy of the hard drive. I am now trying to rework the code so that the host takes care of logging, so that my time-critical loops don't have to wait.
I am currently using LabVIEW 8.5
I have two questions:
First, how can I programmatically call the data-logging subvi on the host so that it runs in parallel with the main vi which runs the experiment and collects data on the real-time? I have attached the test code that I have been working with to figure this out, but it does not run the logging vi continuously in the background. I am aware that there is better functionality for this in newer versions of LabVIEW, but I would prefer not to upgrade unless there is no other option. I would like to be able to run my data-generating vi and have it start the data logging remotely.
Second, is there a way in the host VI to read values off the network variable using an event structure rather than polling it for updates?
Any help would be sincerely appreciated!
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Mark the target VI as served on the machine on which it will execute and use VI server Call by reference to invoke the served VI.
This used to be taught as THE way to communicate syncronously with an RT app.
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Timed structure for output in producer consumer data acquisition
Hello LabVIEW community,
I have a bit of a problem. I am writing a program that is primarily for data aquisition but has a few control features as well. I need the program to aquire and write several channels of data at a relitively high speed. The program does this fine ( in the top 3 loops fo the program). I need the program to also send a seires of two output signals in response to a particular condition. When a certain channel registers a value of above a specified number, I need an output channel to write an anologue signal for 225 seconds and then a signal of a differnt value to the same channel untill the condition occurs again (not for several hours).
I put this action in a timed structure inside of a case structure. The case structure and timed structure are inside of a second consumer loop. I have no idea if this is ligitimate. This event takes much longer than any of the other loops which run at 1 or 2 seconds. When I exicute the program with "highlight exexutuion" this longer (case/ timed ) loop never executes. I asssume this has to do with the mismatch in time scales of this loop and the other loops in the program. I also didn't really understand the help information on timed structures, so its possible that I just need better/ different inputs to the timed stuctures.
If anyone can see any obvious problem in the code or suggest a better way to do the output function I would really appreciate the help. My code is attached.
Thanks,
JoI can't figure out how to fix your code, but I can point out the things I see wrong with it.
1. You are dequeueing elements from the same queue in the same loop. In one you are not taking the element, and in parallel, you are taking an element. I see that in your bottom two loops. Why? That code won't execute until the queue gets two elements in it. And which dequeue gets it first and which gets it second is an arbitrary race condition. So there is no certainly of order (first 4 vs. last 4 currents in the one loop), or which gets kept and which gets discarded (in the other loop.)
2. You are creating and/or clearing DAQ tasks in every loop iteration. Tasks should be created before a loop, used inside the loop (read or write), then cleared once the loop is done. Anything else is wasteful, time consuming, and could lead you to run out of resources.
3. You are using the STOP function which is pretty much like hitting the abort button on the toolbar. No program should ever stop that way. All loops should exit gracefully.
4. You have a data dependncy between your bottom two loops because of the boolean wire running from one to the other. That bottom loop will only run once (if the value is True), or run forever (if the value is false).
5. Use of the dynamic datatype. You are taking waveforms, converting them to a blue wire, then coercing them into another datatype such as just displaying a scalar in an indicator. A lot of unnecessary conversions there.
6. Your thermometer indicators have a digital display you can make visible. Then you won't need the separate numeric indicator to display the value.
7. For loop that runs only 1 time because of the constant wired to the N terminal. Get rid of the For Loop.
8. Check your spelling. The word "Temperatures" on the graph, and one instance of "distillate" is missing an "l".
Until all of these problems are fixed, it is not worth talking about timing of timed structures. Some of these problems were discussed in your other thread. http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW/producer-consumer-missing-channels/m-p/3159757#M911255 But now it seems like you've made things even more complicated without fixing the basic problems. -
Releasing Queue in Producer Consumer model
I am having a VI which reads data from ethernet,writes to disk,processes and displays. Since lot of processing and displays are there, I am converting it to a Producer- Consumer model so that no data is lost.
I am using 2 loops. IN the Producer I am doing the UDP read and Write to disk functions.and use the enqueing also.In the Consumer loop I am dequeing it and do all the processing and displays.My idea is to avoid any data loss in UDP reception and file writing.
My confusion- where to use the release queue?from the Producer or Consumer ? In a third loop ? Should it be in a sequence structure ?
How to set the loops stop conditions ?
My requirements for stopping - when I press the stop button the program should stop completely(the Consumer loop should stop only after dequeing and processing all the data in the queue). If i don't press the stop button the whole program should run continuously (if data does not arrive for some time it should wait without time out-i am using -1 for the time out condition in UDP read.)Here is the ultimate Producer-Consumer loop. It queues a stop command when the stop button is pressed. This ensures that every element is dequeued and processed before the bottom loop stops. The last queue data to get processed is the stop command because after you press the stop button, the top loop stops enqueueing more elements.
If your data type is other than a string, you can create something to represent stop, like NaN for a numeric.
Notice the shift registers. This is good practice. Every loop starts with an error out of the previous loop. If an error occurs, it is passed on to the next loop iteration. Also, if an error occurs in the consumer loop, the loop stops. It is good practice to put shift registers on the queue reference also, but not necessary in this case. If you use a For loop, and the loop iterates 0 times, the output of the queue reference would be a null reference, and the Release Queue would not release the queue. With While loops, they always iterate at least once, so it isn't necessary. Its just good practice to make a habit of using shift registers so you don't forget when using For loops.
Notice also that the error in to the Release Queue is not wired. If there were an error, the Release would not take place. All errors are merged at the end to report exactly where an error occured. A timeout is included in case an error prevents the stop command from being enqueued or dequeued.
- tbob
Inventor of the WORM Global
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