Project Loading Times in P6

Hello,
When I load a project in P6, it is taking over 30 minutes or more to actually load the project and get it open. I have tried many solutions, including prim49750 from the KnowledgeBase. Has anyone else experienced such a problem?
Please advise. Thanks!

A few more questions that came to mind:
-Are you using Compression Server?
-If only one project is plagued by this slowness was this imported from somewhere or created directly in P6.2.1?
-Has this always been an issue or did it come about suddenly?
Some things I would take a look at if you have not already (in no particular order).
-Latency to the database server. (Ping it's IP address).
-Run ValSchema against your P621 DB to check for any inconsistencies.
-If the slowness is unique to this one project you may also try running Check Project Integrity in the application.
-Establish a connection via the client then on the DB Server open Management Studio, right-click the P621 DB, left-click properties and check the Status. I suggest this as I experienced an extreme slowness with a users local database once and eventually found that MS SQL Server saw errors on the DB and was attempting to repair it. In my case there was no production data so rather than wait for it to complete I simply dropped the DB and re-created it.
-Monitor the CPU/Memory usage on the DB Server when attempting to open this project. Are there free resources on the server or are you at %100 utilization when attempting to open this project from a client?
-Monitor the CPU/Memory usage on a client when you attempt to open this project. Are there free resources on the client or are you at %100 utilization?

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I have talked to multiple people about your issue and we honestly believe that you you are experiencing is expected behavior based on the size of the project and number of VIs used. Creating a new project will sometimes help when a project file has a corruption within it. Since you are experiencing the same behavior on multiple computers, any difference in load time will be a function of the speed, RAM, etc. of that particular computer as compared to your machine. In saying that the files are technically loaded, I am saying that their locations are known so that when they are called, they can be loaded into memory as needed. It does not have to load any portion of the VI other than the location on disk. I would not expect either of those methods to reduce your project load time. Switching to dynamic linking only changes the order in which LabVIEW searches for the files. As I stated before, files added to the project are defined by the name and location on the disk. You can think of the project file as an XML file with different pieces of information about the files. If the file cannot be found, it will try to dynamically link the files by searching for them on the disk. When this happens, it goes through a seris of locations where the files might be located. When the project is loaded, it looks for the files that are listed in the project file first. I hope this helps.
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For Pete's Sake man!
I am new here and there seems to be a few guys that have their heads so far up Adobe's *** that you do not see what you are saying.
I understand Howards frustration.
You people think that everyone must go out and buy All of Adobe's Products. To assume any person must be forced to buy a program they do not want or cannot afford is plain rude and obnoxious.
We are not all professionals like some of you, some of do actually shoot weddings, like myself. Why the heck must I buy more programs than I need (although I won After Effects Already)!!?? If you are all so professional why are you on these forums instead of making features in Hollywood? Dammit I get so upset by some people.
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Premiere Elements is for kids. I wanted a professional editng program that was able to do it all in one, Adobe seemed to offer this.
Let us think about for a minute lads. It is either PC or Mac, Mac has good points but the initial investment is quite large so let us put it aside for now. PC. What editing software is there for PC. Sony Vegas, Premiere, AVID, Edius, Avid Liquid/Pinnacle, Ulead, Movie Maker, Power Director/Producer, and various others. So what do you chose....
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Avid Liquid, again it's a bit for beginners
Avid, wow too bg for the guy starting out,
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Process:         Final Cut Pro [20568]
Path:            /Applications/Final Cut Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Final Cut Pro
Identifier:      com.apple.FinalCut
Version:         10.0.1 (185673)
Build Info:      ProEditor-185670300~1
App Item ID:     424389933
App External ID: 4138831
Code Type:       X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [102]
Date/Time:       2011-11-11 20:41:32.201 -0800
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.7.2 (11C74)
Report Version: 9
Interval Since Last Report:          192058 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:           14
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 157161 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   14
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Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
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