Publishing to a non Mac friendly server + network

I am sure this has been asked countless times - feel free to point me to the correct discussion forum-, I am having trouble publishing my Iweb site in to a non .Mac server. Any ideas?

In the past 24 hours I was able to publish my domain
to the folder with the URL I was given. The webmaster
is asking me which of the files uploaded is the one
that links to the webpage. Clearly I am missing
something when using Iweb with a non .Mac server. Any
tips and ideas?
When you "publish to a folder" from iWeb you should get a folder on your hard drive which has the same name as your site does inside iWeb, plus an index.html file. You then use ftp to upload these two items only to your server space run by your webmaster. Is that what you did? If not, what did you do? I don't understand what you mean when you say "published my domain to the folder with the URL I was given."
Did you read the link provided earlier? Do you have questions about it?
What server are you using, and what ftp program? What is your url supposed to be?

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Dear Cyclosaurus,
I used a single command as us specified. It really helped to add the path to the directories I wanted to compare. So now at least I got it two work partly:
It seems to work only if I compare two files. Comparing directories still does not work. Maybe diff generates some kind of error code when doing this??? It does not do that in the shell.
If I compare all files in directories + subdirectories , the workflow does not work. It seems as if it only accepts a single output line or so from the diff function. If there is more output (or maybe some newline character) the workflow halts. Very peculiar.
mmm.... I will try to make a shell script which I can run in automator. In the script file I will then generate a txt file. Then the automator can run the script and then it can open the resulting file in a text editor. See if that works.
mmm nope. I made a script like this:
#!/bin/bash
diff -qr ~/Documents/websiteon_theserver/ ~/Documents/website/ > ~/Documents/logfile.txt
I modified the atributes to executable and I could run it from the command line. The logfile.txt was created and has the correct info. I could not run it from automator...
I did copy the last line from the script into automator. And also there it does create the logfile, but the automator still says there was an error and stops.
maybe I should try Applescript, were it not that I am totally clueless on that language...

Publishing to a non .mac site

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I changed the name, uploaded the folder, and still
nothing.
When you look at your web space with your ftp program, you should see two items: index.html and a folder called Kiiskakuna. Do you?
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I hate to belabour the point, but I just want to clarify: in my setup where ISP<->router<->server<->clients, where the server is the only machine connected to the router, which one should be the local DNS server? The server, right? So if the DNS server is turned on in the router, I should turn it off? Or do I need both (ie. router for its LAN (to server), and server for its LAN (to clients))?
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One more thing that's bugging me: I still don't understand why I couldn't connect to the internet when I plugged in the Ethernet cable from server to router. Even if I was using DHCP to get a dynamically allocated IP, shouldn't it still have worked? I'm worried that I'm going to set up everything as it should be but the connection still won't work.
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nuorder72,
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