Q about Audio tracks in PProCC

I've created a PProCC project, using AVCHD footage from a Panasonic DSLR. The original audio came in as a stereo track. I converted it to dual mono, because I read somewhere that would be a good idea, I don't remember exactly why!
Anyway,I've got my project put together, but when I go to edit audio in Audition, I notice that there is only 1 channel. And now looking back at the project, I see that both mono tracks are listed as Channel 1. When I edit in Audition, I'm only editing one channel. So what I need to know is, does the editing of that channel in Audition result in changes to both of my mono tracks in the original PProCC project, or just one? Thanks for your help! ~Bond

Well, that was a good and simple idea.
Exported mono track to Audition, added 5 sec silence at the beginning of the track. Saved in Audition.
Went back to PProCC, and sure enough only one track was affected.
I'm all about workflow, but I'm so mew at this I'm not at all surprised that it's an unusual workflow.
There's a lot of noise in these audio tracks - live theater recording, boomy room (which I know I can't do much about) but also several periods of obnoxious industrial noise - refrigeration unit going on next door, and whatever else - and I do think I can do something about that. But I'd like noise reduction to happen on both tracks in Audition, and it appears that I can't do that with the two mono tracks set up the way they are. So it appears that I've spent a ton of time trying to edit noise out of the audio, only to now discover that I've only been affecting one of the tracks, which is why, I guess, the noise isn't going away. Oy!!! Do I have any options for being able to edit both audio tracks simultaneously? Thanks for the help.

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If you recorded with two mikes, which it sounds like you did, you really recorded two distinct tracks, and you ought to bring them in as dual mono tracks, rather than stereo. (A capture setting.) Go to the Modify pulldown and uncheck "stereo pair." Then you should be able to adjust to your heart's content.
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Well I didn't mean to irritate you...LOL And yes, I realize that this is the iM 6 forum but the gist of my question was related to multiple audio tracks in iM and thought I would ask about it in the forum pertaining to the latest release.
I had already posted a question in the GB forum regarding the bpm problem and found no answers so I was pretty much about to shelve that idea and forgo the whole garageband thing; this without knowing about the new "swap" features. I just updated to iM 6 yesterday.
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ah, thanks for that
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... ehm, but this is the iM 6(six) section, as said,
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so, video is in some iM, and he wants to use the
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J
x

jlowho wrote:
Hi,
Having used logic 8 for about half a year now I have had no problems whatsoever.
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I create 2 tracks for example
How? This should work:
Of course you need the command New... from the Local arrange menu Tracks. It sounds like you've used *New with Duplicate Setting* instead.
However, you can reassign tracks by ctrl-clicking on the track header:
Audio track 1 works as normal and below the level meter at the bottom left I see the symbol to change from mono to stereo. I select it as mono.
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regards, Erik.

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1: Some of the clips came with 2 tracks off the camera yet they are both labeled channel 1 on the beginning of the clip on the timeline. Their properties are listed as follows:
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Hi there...
I have a number of video files that have multiple audio tracks in them. The problem is I can not work out how to get prem to see multiple audio tracks. The files import fine and I have also tried various other formates with multi-track audio.. but only audio "stream 1" is visible in prem.
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I work in education and particularly music. Teachers are looking to create a playlist of selected track but only want the selected track to play then stop.
This allows them to talk to the class during presentation and not worry about having to stop playback mid discussion.
I've been successful doing this from appleTVs homeshared to a library by unchecking songs in the playlist. But It would be useful to instructors who have there own media on their device.

Thanks for a cognative answer TXMark.
For what its worth to any readers that work in education and would like this play once and stop 'feature'
I had great success in homeshareing a iTunes library of teaching material and creating topic specific playlist and used apple remote app to control an appletv connected to that homeshared library. As TXMark suggests, uncheck the songs in iTunes and the media will not automatically play the tracks in sequence.
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