Quality of edited vs. raw footage

Hello,
I recently edited together a short video out of clips from my GoPro 3 Black, and then imported that sequence to Encore and burned to Bluray along with the raw footage I had taken. The editing was just cuts, and I layered in a song. I noticed when testing the Bluray that the video quality of the edited sequence is not as good as the raw footage, there is quite a bit of artifacting compared to the raw stuff. Any ideas why this would be? I've done quite a lot of basic editing, but don't really know that much about transcoding and codecs and whatnot.
Edit: I'm not sure that this is useful or not, I don't think it is, but anyways, before I imported my sequence to Encore, I thought I had to export the video from premiere for Bluray, so I did that, but then I found I could just import my sequence in Encore, so I don't think that export was used. At leas that is my assumption.

Stan Jones wrote:
Would the settings you are referencing be the "Default Transcode Settings?" I have Encore set to:
The rest are grayed out and can't be changed, 1440x1080, 29.97, Upper Field First.
The default transcode settings are applied to menus and slideshows. You can specify many other options for assets used in timelines.
The greyed out settings you pick when you create a new project. Then they cannot be changed for that project.
A custom transcode setting can be chosen at any point prior to building a disc. You have access to any preset in AME, and can customize a presets bitrate.

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2. Its possible to generate decent previews by a complicated purging-process.
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OK.
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If you are giving the clients the raw footage it's best I think to give them the entire media structure from the camera card. Just make a separate folder for each card, call them Joe&Joan1, 2, 3, etc. Drag the complete contents of each card into it's separate folder. Put the folders on an ExFAT formatted jump drive.
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